Player Recruitment or Manager

[swan65split]

Was said on Radio Wales this evening by a few ex pros that his caretaker role to what is being witnessed now is like chalk and cheese.

I think that's pretty obvious.

its been obvious bar for a few games all season, playing at home and not having a pop in 45 mins is a sure way of getting the sack or relegation, chances are we will be in a fight after xmas , this isnt an overnight sort out, we seem to playing the same thing all the time ther sides coaches arent stupid.

 

[magicdaps10]

What's blindingly different then? I asked the same question above and the answer was "we attacked a bit more". Hardly revolutionary and we were hardly like Real Madrid either.

We actually went out to win games and get at teams, This season we seem to be playing and set up not to lose the game first and foremost.
The mindset has massively changed.

Last season you would see central midfielders striding forward and joing the centre forward when crosses were delivered.....we don't see that now because the midfielders are clearly being asked to hold shape and spaces rather than join in with the centre forward.
The midfield 3 are totally different in set up which in turns makes us a totally different team to what we were seeing last season.

 

[FearOfAJackPlanet]

Because we were winning more games last season, people believed we were being more attacking or playing with the handbrake off when actually we were pretty much the same but got a few more goals here and there. The club seemed to have followed that logic too and assumed it would keep going the way it did for that short spell. Now the rot has set in, it will take a huge effort for Sheehan to turn this around as every half they go without creating chances seems to compound and reduce the confidence of the staff and the players.

There was a very noticeable difference in how we played when Sheehan took over last season. To claim it was business as usual but we just happened to win a lot more games is a bit lazy. There was a clear intention to play further up the pitch and not be bogged down in our own half. We got Vip more involved and Sheehan knew how to make best use of LOB (who had looked very average under Williams). It was the same squad of players, so nobody's claiming we defied the laws of nature and became a completely different set of players, but there was a clear distinction on how we played under Sheehan last season to how we looked under Williams.

 

[eteb]

Huh?

You posted you didn’t understand and I said why I thought that was. I wasn’t remotely having a dig.

Kind of the whole point of a forum is for people to respond.

This squad is absolutely not better than last season’s.

Go through the players one by one and tell us all the ones that are better.

The squad not better than last seasons? Really?!

 

[tardylum]

The squad is definitely better. The first 11 was expected to be vastly superior but might only be marginally better if better at all.

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

5 at the back at home is just inviting a very good side to dominate. Sheehan should go before Bristol City away.

 

[Cooperman]

We actually went out to win games and get at teams, This season we seem to be playing and set up not to lose the game first and foremost.
The mindset has massively changed.

Last season you would see central midfielders striding forward and joing the centre forward when crosses were delivered.....we don't see that now because the midfielders are clearly being asked to hold shape and spaces rather than join in with the centre forward.
The midfield 3 are totally different in set up which in turns makes us a totally different team to what we were seeing last season.

We must have been watching different teams at the back end of last season.

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

Before today, I thought 40 coach/60 players but after that first half even I am starting to think it may be 50/50.

Nevertheless, I still remain very sceptical about the players we've signed, outside Galbraith and Burgess. I'm still not convinced a different coach makes much difference on that front.

Burgess ? Scored two own goals for his former side. Sheehan is just clueless. His results last season look like the work of the midfield coach we let go and of course O’Brien.

I can’t but the “bad transfers” argument. We are even making Galbraith look average the way we are going at the moment

 

[magicdaps10]

We must have been watching different teams at the back end of last season.

That's football, all about views and opinions.

The game is all about margins and this margins seem to be getting bigger and bigger against us in recent weeks.....not helped with us chopping and changing formations and players by the manager.

 

[Ringwood]

Interesting debate about comparing squads from last to this season.

We've lost Darling, LoB, MPH, Naughton, Joe Allen, Cooper from the regular players and some Fringe.

We have gained Widdel, Santos, Casey, Burgess, Smith, Stemenic, Galbraith, Yalcouye, Idah, Benson and Inoussa

I think we have a stronger squad than last season

What we do have is a Manager unable to pull it all together unless we think a number of these new players are not Championship standard.

 

[Cooperman]

That's football, all about views and opinions.

This is very true. On that note I’ve got to leave, as it happens I’m about to fly to Sāo Paolo and spend three days where Ronald spent 2022 on loan. Every time I go there I talk with the locals about him and I find myself being less complementary each time. Boa noite amigo.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

The squad not better than last seasons? Really?!

I don’t think so, no. At least, I think we have more depth but our strongest 11 is weaker than last season.

Keeper - same.

Back 4 - same other than Burgess replaces Darling and I believe Darling last season was better than Burgess this season. Burgess is a very solid centre back but lacks the ability of Darling to take us forward. Isn’t as strong on the ball. In back up we had Delcroix, Christie, Naughton. I think Casey and Samuels Smith are better than Delcroix and Christie but we lack the experience of Naughton.

Midfield - we have more strength in depth, but I believe O’Brien, Franco, Allen was a stronger three than Galbraith, Franco, Stamenic or Galbraith, Franco, Widell.

Wide - Bianchini, Peart Harris, Eom, Ronald last season. This season Inoussa and Benson replace Bianchini and Peart Harris. One better, one far, far, far worse.

Up front - we only really play one, so Cullen / Vipotnik obviously the same. Idah is a definite improvement as we had no back up as such.

So overall, better depth but I don’t think that means we have a better team.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

I don’t think so, no. At least, I think we have more depth but our strongest 11 is weaker than last season.

Keeper - same.

Back 4 - same other than Burgess replaces Darling and I believe Darling last season was better than Burgess this season. Burgess is a very solid centre back but lacks the ability of Darling to take us forward. Isn’t as strong on the ball. In back up we had Delcroix, Christie, Naughton. I think Casey and Samuels Smith are better than Delcroix and Christie but we lack the experience of Naughton.

Midfield - we have more strength in depth, but I believe O’Brien, Franco, Allen was a stronger three than Galbraith, Franco, Stamenic or Galbraith, Franco, Widell.

Wide - Bianchini, Peart Harris, Eom, Ronald last season. This season Inoussa and Benson replace Bianchini and Peart Harris. One better, one far, far, far worse.

Up front - we only really play one, so Cullen / Vipotnik obviously the same. Idah is a definite improvement as we had no back up as such.

So overall, better depth but I don’t think that means we have a better team.

That's a really good and fair summary (though I differ on the Burgess v Darling debate).

 

[3swan]

Interesting debate about comparing squads from last to this season.

We've lost Darling, LoB, MPH, Naughton, Joe Allen, Cooper from the regular players and some Fringe.

We have gained Widdel, Santos, Casey, Burgess, Smith, Stemenic, Galbraith, Yalcouye, Idah, Benson and Inoussa

I think we have a stronger squad than last season

What we do have is a Manager unable to pull it all together unless we think a number of these new players are not Championship standard.

As a squad I don't think we are stronger. You can look at the new players and think they all could offer something but as a group I don't think the balance was correct.
Is it down to being data driven, but we'd need the collective to be greater than the individual parts.
So far I've seen nothing resembling that.

 

[Ringwood]

As a squad I don't think we are stronger. You can look at the new players and think they all could offer something but as a group I don't think the balance was correct.
Is it down to being data driven, but we'd need the collective to be greater than the individual parts.
So far I've seen nothing resembling that.

That's a concern considering how much money we have spent to upgrade

Where these Montague's signings?