Playing out from the back

[bytholwyn]

I am full on a fan of playing out from the back, but there are ways to do and ways not to do it.

The current Swans squad is for the most part very static when it comes to waiting to receiving passes and not enough players are making the right offers for the man in possession for them to make a meaningful pass. All too often the player on the ball takes a touch (or three) and then passes it 5-10 yards to a player who is already marked, meaning player either needs to take a risk turning into his man, passing it straight back to the first player or playing a first time pass to someone else who is offering for the ball who is on the move and thus not being marked.

The problem right now is very very players offer option 3.

The Rodger's era every player usually had at least 3-4 options of where to pass the ball and there were always players moving to create triangles and moving into space to give their team mates options to pass the ball where it can be more dangerous and lead to opportunities.

All too often right now because the tempo of the moving of the ball is so low one touch pass and move football is not an option unless we are being forced into it by a team that is pressing hard. At that point its often a 50/50 split on whether we rise to meet their challenge or fold like a pack of cards.

Agreed. To be able to complete passes successfully we need to keep the passing distances down. Far too often this season the distances between the back three and midfield are too great, so that moves break down too easily. In the QPR and Luton games we finally had two players, often Key and Tymon, sometimes Franco or Cullen, in front of the back three, giving a shorter passing option out of the back. Those two performances were at a completely different level to anything seen before or since, and the multiplicity of passing options, short, medium and long, combined with excellent tempo in and out of possession, were fundamental to our success.

The other big element in those two games was how very, very good we were out of possession. The entirety of the first half against QPR was played in their half, which was testament to the ferocity of our pressing out of possession, especially in the middle of the park. Having a team of pressers helped, with Bianchini, Ronald, Cullen, and Franco all excellent at pressing.

We now have the template for success, Williams just needs to select the right team, and he needs the players to apply themselves in just the same way as they did in those two games. If we play in that vein we will blow Cardiff away.

 

[DJack]

Too many of our current squad hide behind opposition players. Afraid to take any responsibility.

Mind you, i've noticed this theme for many a year.

 

[monmouth]

Agreed. To be able to complete passes successfully we need to keep the passing distances down. Far too often this season the distances between the back three and midfield are too great, so that moves break down too easily. In the QPR and Luton games we finally had two players, often Key and Tymon, sometimes Franco or Cullen, in front of the back three, giving a shorter passing option out of the back. Those two performances were at a completely different level to anything seen before or since, and the multiplicity of passing options, short, medium and long, combined with excellent tempo in and out of possession, were fundamental to our success.

The other big element in those two games was how very, very good we were out of possession. The entirety of the first half against QPR was played in their half, which was testament to the ferocity of our pressing out of possession, especially in the middle of the park. Having a team of pressers helped, with Bianchini, Ronald, Cullen, and Franco all excellent at pressing.

We now have the template for success, Williams just needs to select the right team, and he needs the players to apply themselves in just the same way as they did in those two games. If we play in that vein we will blow Cardiff away.

QPR and Luton made no attempt to attack us at all. That allowed us time and space to look good. As soon as teams come at us, we shit the bed.

 

[bytholwyn]

QPR and Luton made no attempt to attack us at all. That allowed us time and space to look good. As soon as teams come at us, we shit the bed.

True for QPR not for Luton. In general we don't always cope well with the high press, but that's because we limit our passing options in front of Vigouroux, the centre backs and Grimes. With more options we should be able to cope with high pressing, the players are good enough.

 

[LaJollaJack]

Agreed. To be able to complete passes successfully we need to keep the passing distances down. Far too often this season the distances between the back three and midfield are too great, so that moves break down too easily. In the QPR and Luton games we finally had two players, often Key and Tymon, sometimes Franco or Cullen, in front of the back three, giving a shorter passing option out of the back. Those two performances were at a completely different level to anything seen before or since, and the multiplicity of passing options, short, medium and long, combined with excellent tempo in and out of possession, were fundamental to our success.

The other big element in those two games was how very, very good we were out of possession. The entirety of the first half against QPR was played in their half, which was testament to the ferocity of our pressing out of possession, especially in the middle of the park. Having a team of pressers helped, with Bianchini, Ronald, Cullen, and Franco all excellent at pressing.

We now have the template for success, Williams just needs to select the right team, and he needs the players to apply themselves in just the same way as they did in those two games. If we play in that vein we will blow Cardiff away.

The common factor in the QPR and Luton games was Williams had to take a back seat ( in the same way Martin had to at his lowest ebb).

Matty took the reins (just as he did with Martin) : from pre-match prep, selection, in-game dynamic leadership and direction, half time team talk, post match debrief.

That's the blueprint, right there.

Fin

 

[Smurph]

The common factor in the QPR and Luton games was Williams had to take a back seat ( in the same way Martin had to at his lowest ebb).

Matty took the reins (just as he did with Martin) : from pre-match prep, selection, in-game dynamic leadership and direction, half time team talk, post match debrief.

That's the blueprint, right there.

Fin

I'll give you one thing...... You're persistent

 

[bytholwyn]

The common factor in the QPR and Luton games was Williams had to take a back seat ( in the same way Martin had to at his lowest ebb).

Matty took the reins (just as he did with Martin) : from pre-match prep, selection, in-game dynamic leadership and direction, half time team talk, post match debrief.

That's the blueprint, right there.

Fin

And you know this how?

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

And you know this how?

He knows f*ck all. He just talks constant bollocks.

 

[J_B]

And you know this how?

It’s a simple equation. If we win and play well it has nothing to do with Williams and Grimes was the manager.
If we lose and we’re shite, it’s all Williams’ fault.

 

[Smurph]

And you know this how?

She's married to Matt Grimes.