Promotion Rivals

[monmouth]

still thjnk its a new manager bounce. Although admit moore was excellent signing

Well see how good they are on 20th March.

 

[sainthelens]

Call me negative but I fear if we don't make automatic then players heads will drop and frustration will show and we won't win the playoffs. I.e. Brentford bottling it last season

Load of fckn nonsense.
Jesus wept.

 

[eteb]

yep, now thinking tho, brizzle are fkcin awful, as are cov (i thought they were mid table)

 

[SkipTheJack]

Get in there Stoke!

Spoke too soon, 3-1. Just not our day today.

 

[Elward]

Call me negative but I fear if we don't make automatic then players heads will drop and frustration will show and we won't win the playoffs. I.e. Brentford bottling it last season

Load of fckn nonsense.
Jesus wept.

Based on what?

1) I gave an example
2) I have played professional sport (doubt you have)
3) Profanity when there's no aggression shows lack of intelligence and vocabulary

 

[thefranchise]

Load of fckn nonsense.
Jesus wept.

Based on what?

1) I gave an example
2) I have played professional sport (doubt you have)
3) Profanity when there's no aggression shows lack of intelligence and vocabulary

What bearing does your professional sport experience have on this group of players? It doesn't give your opinion any credibility. The same way my coaching of international athletes in other sports doesn't mean I know a thing about the mentality of our side.

 

[J_B]

Call me negative but I fear if we don't make automatic then players heads will drop and frustration will show and we won't win the playoffs. I.e. Brentford bottling it last season

We couldn’t quite get over the line 10 years ago and came third.

We then regrouped, saw that we’d had better seasons than the other three and won the playoffs.

 

[Elward]

Based on what?

1) I gave an example
2) I have played professional sport (doubt you have)
3) Profanity when there's no aggression shows lack of intelligence and vocabulary

What bearing does your professional sport experience have on this group of players? It doesn't give your opinion any credibility. The same way my coaching of international athletes in other sports doesn't mean I know a thing about the mentality of our side.

The fact that most people judge their opinion on what they know and see. They don't see what players really say and think when a camera is not on them and don't have to be a good boy. I have been in similar circumstances and know what players say so basing my opinion on that. Hence my opinion. I didn't say these players do think the same way at all. I mearly said I can see heads dropping and it's going against them similar to Brentford just missing out on automatic placing last year then failing in the play offs.

 

[Elward]

Maybe I should change my name to Dwightyorkesuperstar. That's usually what people claim in reply to someone that gives an unpopular 'opinion'.

 

[thefranchise]

What bearing does your professional sport experience have on this group of players? It doesn't give your opinion any credibility. The same way my coaching of international athletes in other sports doesn't mean I know a thing about the mentality of our side.

The fact that most people judge their opinion on what they know and see. They don't see what players really say and think when a camera is not on them and don't have to be a good boy. I have been in similar circumstances and know what players say so basing my opinion on that. Hence my opinion. I didn't say these players do think the same way at all. I mearly said I can see heads dropping and it's going against them similar to Brentford just missing out on automatic placing last year then failing in the play offs.

Again though, that's those players and not these players. Each group is different and where one group is mentally weak (as Brentford were/are) others are strong. Your experiences with your group still has no bearing on this one.

You can't dismiss someone's opinion on this group just because you have worked with others. They have the same experiences with this group as you do. Unless you're staff or ex staff then you probably shouldn't be on here anyway

 

[ABSwan]

At our current rate of point accumulation we're looking at around 90 by season's end. That's almost always enough for at least second but it's going to be tight this year unless one of Brentford, Norwich or us have a wobble in form.

What's the highest points total scored by the team that finished third?

That's a very good question.

In recent years, I think that it's:

(1) 2017/2018 - Fulham - 88 points
(2) 2011/2012 - West Ham - 86 points
(=3) 2013/2014 - Derby - 85 points
(=3) 2016/2017 - Reading - 85 points

Someone on this forum said that we should be aiming for 89 points, which would mean 12 wins from the last 19 matches, which on current form is very achievable. Can anyone coax SgorioFruit into starting a countdown page again?

2nd/3rd placed teams and points since there were 46 games in a season

1989 Manchester City 82 Crystal Palace 81
1990 Sheffield United 85 Newcastle United 80
1991 West Ham United 87 Sheffield Wednesday 82
1992 Middlesbrough 80 Derby County 78
1993 West Ham United 88 Portsmouth 88
1994 Nottingham Forest 74 Millwall 58
1995 Reading 79 Bolton Wanderers 77
1996 Derby County 79 Crystal Palace 75
1997 Barnsley 80 Wolverhampton Wanderers 76
1998 Middlesbrough 91 Sunderland 90
1999 Bradford City 87 Ipswich Town 86
2000 Manchester City 89 Ipswich Town 87
2001 Blackburn Rovers 91 Bolton Wanderers 87
2002 West Bromwich Albion 89 Wolverhampton Wanderers 86
2003 Leicester City 92 Sheffield United 80
2004 West Bromwich Albion 86 Sunderland 79
2005 Wigan Athletic 87 Ipswich Town 85
2006 Sheffield United 90 Watford 81
2007 Birmingham City 86 Derby County 84
2008 Stoke City 79 Hull City 75
2009 Birmingham City 83 Sheffield United 80
2010 West Bromwich Albion 91 Nottingham Forest 79
2011 Norwich City 84 Swansea City 80
2012 Southampton 88 West Ham United 86
2013 Hull City 79 Watford 77
2014 Burnley 93 Derby County 85
2015 Watford 89 Norwich City 86
2016 Middlesbrough 89 Brighton & Hove Albion 89
2017 Brighton & Hove Albion 93 Reading 85
2018 Cardiff City 90 Fulham 88
2019 Sheffield United 89 Leeds United 83
2020 West Bromwich Albion 83 Brentford 81

 

[Swanjaxs]

Call me negative but I fear if we don't make automatic then players heads will drop and frustration will show and we won't win the playoffs. I.e. Brentford bottling it last season

Well yes I believe you are being negative.

Judging by what I've witnessed so far this season, a top two spot is very achievable.
Of course lots of way to go, injuries, loss of form, or both could play a part, but I believe we have a deep enough squad now to cope.
BTW injuries and loss of form can also effect others just as easily.

But with 19 games to go we are well placed.

If it is a play-off spot, I see absolutely nothing to fear.

Enjoy the ride

 

[monmouth]

Call me negative but I fear if we don't make automatic then players heads will drop and frustration will show and we won't win the playoffs. I.e. Brentford bottling it last season

We couldn’t quite get over the line 10 years ago and came third.

We then regrouped, saw that we’d had better seasons than the other three and won the playoffs.

There's such a long way to go. We could end up anywhere from 1 to 6 easily. I don't think we'll be higher or lower than that

If we are in the play offs I think we'll have a much better shot than last year.

At last something gone our way today!

 

[SkipTheJack]

Yay Millwall!

 

[Swanjaxs]

Boom 1-2 the Wall