S25/26 | The Official Match Thread | Charlton 1 Swansea 1 | Att: 20,405 (2,227Jacks) | 01/11/25 | The EFL Championship | The Valley

[Manselton Jack]

Definitely feels like 2 points dropped, he'll freshen it up for Wednesday so hopefully that'll mean starts for Widell & Inoussa.
Francos injury looked like a clash of knees but he seemed to be moving OK so precautionary I guess.

 

[magicdaps10]

Not sure the critism of Idah today is justified. He got into good positions and wasn't given the best service. He grew into the game and stretched there defense. The problem we have is VP is that damn good at the moment, it highlights the smallest amount of negatives for anyone who plays in that role now. His goal will give him a heap of confidence and its good to have a different option. I'm not saying Idah is going to be great. He got us a point so let's just be happy about that

He took his goal well and seemed to get a bit of confidence from it but he was bloody awful before the goal.
He needs to be doing more.

Nice to read others views regards Idah that don't follow the same route as my own.

 

[lidojack]

Didn’t one of the statistics show Charlton have only lost 1 in 20 at home? Good point and could have won the game.

15 of those were in League One to be fair.

 

[Deleted member 1454]

5-4-1 against Charlton? Against Man City fair enough but this was fucking Charlton

But we looked better again with it though. He's got to keep going with it. Key and Tymon are much happier in that formation, you can see it. I hope he doesn't abandon it.

 

[magicdaps10]

But we looked better again with it though. He's got to keep going with it. Key and Tymon are much happier in that formation, you can see it. I hope he doesn't abandon it.

I think the formation works better but we didn't have the pace in the roles that Ronald and Eom started in today.....Inoussa offered more pace in that role in midweek.

 

[Pegojack]

But we looked better again with it though. He's got to keep going with it. Key and Tymon are much happier in that formation, you can see it. I hope he doesn't abandon it.

I agree, particularly away, it keeps us pretty tight at the back, and allows Tymon and Key to cause lots of problems going forward. I thought Key had a really good game today, apart from his horror miss at the end, which probably cost us two points. Get your feckin knee over the ball, sunshine!

 

[JackSomething]

Not sure the critism of Idah today is justified. He got into good positions and wasn't given the best service. He grew into the game and stretched there defense. The problem we have is VP is that damn good at the moment, it highlights the smallest amount of negatives for anyone who plays in that role now. His goal will give him a heap of confidence and its good to have a different option. I'm not saying Idah is going to be great. He got us a point so let's just be happy about that

Idah's situation at the moment is a little like it was for Gomis when we signed him and kept Bony half a season longer than we expected to. Vipotnik is clearly the better striker at this time and so Idah looks a worse player than he probably is because we're comparing them.

I sincerely hope Vipi is back for Preston, but if not, it will be Idah's third successive start and so he should, theoretically, be ramping up his performances.

 

[lidojack]

But we looked better again with it though. He's got to keep going with it. Key and Tymon are much happier in that formation, you can see it. I hope he doesn't abandon it.

We looked so much worse than usual first half.
As soon as we went one down it was like the players were allowed to make forward-thinking passes and we looked better.

It's not a formation issue, it's a tactical one.

 

[Deleted member 1454]

We looked so much worse than usual first half.
As soon as we went one down it was like the players were allowed to make forward-thinking passes and we looked better.

It's not a formation issue, it's a tactical one.

I couldn't disagree more with that assessment, but fair enough.

 

[Pegojack]

Oh, and just a word for Vig. What an outstanding save to keep it at 0-0 in the first half. The boy is magic. If he was five years younger, he'd be worth £20 million.

 

[FearOfAJackPlanet]

But we looked better again with it though. He's got to keep going with it. Key and Tymon are much happier in that formation, you can see it. I hope he doesn't abandon it.

Agree. Looked solid defensively and if our brains didn’t switch off in the final 3rd we would have been a couple of goals up at half time.

 

[K23]

I'm not so sure. I think the lad is outstanding as an impact sub with 30 minutes to go. Would he be so good playing the full 90?

I don't think that argument stands up. I'd much rather we were a significantly better team for 60-70 minutes and then sub him if he's knackered. Start with your most effective players on the pitch and go from there. Ronald and Eom are not currently amongst our most effective players so shouldn't be starting and despite his goal today, neither is Idah when VIP is fit. The idea of saving some of your better players for the last 20 minutes is ridiculous IMO. Better to use fresh legs to see the game out than to desperately chase it.

 

[JackSomething]

I don't think that argument stands up. I'd much rather we were a significantly better team for 60-70 minutes and then sub him if he's knackered. Start with your most effective players on the pitch and go from there. Ronald and Eom are not currently amongst our most effective players so shouldn't be starting and despite his goal today, neither is Idah when VIP is fit. The idea of saving some of your better players for the last 20 minutes is ridiculous IMO. Better to use fresh legs to see the game out than to desperately chase it.

Barring Vipotnik for Idah, I think our best starting 11 was on the pitch when Widdell and Inoussa came on. I'd love to see us start that way against Preston.

 

[K23]

Barring Vipotnik for Idah, I think our best starting 11 was on the pitch when Widdell and Inoussa came on. I'd love to see us start that way against Preston.

Exactly

 

[Malaga]

They have a habit in Ireland for calling Swedes turnips in Ireland.......true that.

Can confirm, Mrs M is from the emerald isle