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PSumbler said:Watford v Norwich? :lol:
exiledclaseboy said:Same position for me. I’ve had the same seat in the stadium since it opened, with the same group of mates I went to the Vetch with for decades before that. I think I’ve been to four games this season. I’d like to say I had other things to do but for all apart from one I just didn’t want to go. Much of the time I don’t even bother watching the streams these days. I enjoyed the World Cup on TV far more than I’ve enjoyed watching the Swans either on TV or in person for years.
I can’t even blame Martin. My feeling of detachment started towards the end of the Prem years. COVID got me out of the habit of going and I never really got back into it. And a big part of it is that we’ve now done everything that I ever wanted but never expected to see the Swans do for the first 30 years of my supporting life. We got to the Prem after one of the best days of my life at Wembley and for the first few years we smashed it. We won a major trophy at Wembley. Then it went to s**t and has only continued to go to s**t ever since. Even getting back to the Prem now wouldn’t be the same as last time. It never is. I look at the yo-yo clubs like Norwich and WBA, up down up down and I think to myself “what’s the point of that”. The thrill of the chase has gone. When a dream has been fulfilled what happens next?
So I think I’ve more or less accepted that my lifelong love affair with the Swans has reached a natural conclusion. We’re now just good friends. I’m more of a casual fan than anything else these days. Win, lose or draw I just note it and move on. All that said I’ll probably renew my ST because I’m lucky enough to be able to afford it and maintain my choice of whether to go to a game or not. Amd if I don’t go my mate takes one of his kids who are absolutely loving it. They’re the next generation, my time is more or less done.
It felt quite cathartic writing all that. It’s probably the first time I’ve ever properly admitted to myself let alone anyone else that I don’t much care about the Swans anymore.
exiledclaseboy said:When a dream has been fulfilled what happens next?
exiledclaseboy said:Same position for me. I’ve had the same seat in the stadium since it opened, with the same group of mates I went to the Vetch with for decades before that. I think I’ve been to four games this season. I’d like to say I had other things to do but for all apart from one I just didn’t want to go. Much of the time I don’t even bother watching the streams these days. I enjoyed the World Cup on TV far more than I’ve enjoyed watching the Swans either on TV or in person for years.
I can’t even blame Martin. My feeling of detachment started towards the end of the Prem years. COVID got me out of the habit of going and I never really got back into it. And a big part of it is that we’ve now done everything that I ever wanted but never expected to see the Swans do for the first 30 years of my supporting life. We got to the Prem after one of the best days of my life at Wembley and for the first few years we smashed it. We won a major trophy at Wembley. Then it went to s**t and has only continued to go to s**t ever since. Even getting back to the Prem now wouldn’t be the same as last time. It never is. I look at the yo-yo clubs like Norwich and WBA, up down up down and I think to myself “what’s the point of that”. The thrill of the chase has gone. When a dream has been fulfilled what happens next?
So I think I’ve more or less accepted that my lifelong love affair with the Swans has reached a natural conclusion. We’re now just good friends. I’m more of a casual fan than anything else these days. Win, lose or draw I just note it and move on. All that said I’ll probably renew my ST because I’m lucky enough to be able to afford it and maintain my choice of whether to go to a game or not. Amd if I don’t go my mate takes one of his kids who are absolutely loving it. They’re the next generation, my time is more or less done.
It felt quite cathartic writing all that. It’s probably the first time I’ve ever properly admitted to myself let alone anyone else that I don’t much care about the Swans anymore.
monmouth said:You just said everything I said, but with actual, um, clarity . No wonder you’re a mandarin.
exiledclaseboy said:Same position for me. I’ve had the same seat in the stadium since it opened, with the same group of mates I went to the Vetch with for decades before that. I think I’ve been to four games this season. I’d like to say I had other things to do but for all apart from one I just didn’t want to go. Much of the time I don’t even bother watching the streams these days. I enjoyed the World Cup on TV far more than I’ve enjoyed watching the Swans either on TV or in person for years.
I can’t even blame Martin. My feeling of detachment started towards the end of the Prem years. COVID got me out of the habit of going and I never really got back into it. And a big part of it is that we’ve now done everything that I ever wanted but never expected to see the Swans do for the first 30 years of my supporting life. We got to the Prem after one of the best days of my life at Wembley and for the first few years we smashed it. We won a major trophy at Wembley. Then it went to s**t and has only continued to go to s**t ever since. Even getting back to the Prem now wouldn’t be the same as last time. It never is. I look at the yo-yo clubs like Norwich and WBA, up down up down and I think to myself “what’s the point of that”. The thrill of the chase has gone. When a dream has been fulfilled what happens next?
So I think I’ve more or less accepted that my lifelong love affair with the Swans has reached a natural conclusion. We’re now just good friends. I’m more of a casual fan than anything else these days. Win, lose or draw I just note it and move on. All that said I’ll probably renew my ST because I’m lucky enough to be able to afford it and maintain my choice of whether to go to a game or not. Amd if I don’t go my mate takes one of his kids who are absolutely loving it. They’re the next generation, my time is more or less done.
It felt quite cathartic writing all that. It’s probably the first time I’ve ever properly admitted to myself let alone anyone else that I don’t much care about the Swans anymore.
Skippyjack said:You know what you're all suffering from.. old pr*ck syndrome.. I've had a season ticket for 23 years now, I've missed 2 or 3 games this season.. does that make me a plastic like Phil and ECB
Skippyjack said:You know what you're all suffering from.. old pr*ck syndrome.. I've had a season ticket for 23 years now, I've missed 2 or 3 games this season.. does that make me a plastic like Phil and ECB
3swan said:As far as I’m concerned there is some truth in that. Age and other things in life does change your perspective on what is important. Over the years Saturday was always football. The change did start to happen pre covid, but when football stopped then habits changed. I’m sure that if the football was better I would be seeing more games, but it’s more of the day out than the football itself now
PSumbler said:Covid is an interesting point that has been raised. Like many others I found other things to do on a Saturday afternoon during Covid and that does sometimes shape my opinion on games (and that isn't driven by any quality on the pitch to do other things)
ECB made a good point about the rise through the leagues and us having "done it all" and I cant remember who said it but I agree on the point about the two play off finals. The first was excitement for the weeks leading up to it and the day itself I can almost remember every moment. The one against Brentford I went to because I felt I had to but there was no excitement as such and similarly no feeling of devastation when we lost.
For the past few years (even before Covid) I keep thinking I will get back the passion and maybe some was taken away due to the whole drain that the sale of the club had on me personally and through the time I lost with the family but its not just the same.
My last away game was three years ago this month (bar that play off final) and I have no idea when the next will be but I cant see it being in the near future.
I still think I will renew but who knows how many games I will watch. But at least I can keep my season ticket in my plastic wallet. Apt. :lol:
3swan said:There's never going to be one thing to pinpoint, but there is a general theme in most posts.
Over the many years there have been poor periods when you think why? (Shared enough emails), but the pull has still been strong enough that it only lasts a few games.
We had ST's for a few years but with kick off times changing we had to juggle to make games.
It got more difficult for the 3 of us to match diaries and with some games live on Sky or the red button, the decision was made not to renew.
Still got to see quite a few games, but the standard of football the last 4 years has stretched us.
Covid in itself was not the issue, but it did stop the "there's a game Saturday". I used to know the next upcoming games, but now it's a case of do we fancy a day out and look at the fixtures.
You mention the sale of the club, and yes, for right or wrong, it has taken some of my club away.
I can't say it's all about how the club is, but at the moment it's more of, a wish that I wanted to go to games, than actually making the effort.