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I really don't give a fuck about anyone else except my loved ones anymore, I'll abide by the rules, do all I can to keep myself and my family covid free, and hope for the best for anyone who is doing the same, the rest can all fo fuck themselves 👍
 
PSumbler said:
jack123 said:
Lockdowns do work? Yes of course they do! That's how we have had lockdowns throughout 2020, and we still find ourselves in lockdown again, there is no other alternative apart from what I have suggested, or do you want to keep people for the next 6 months to a year, that it is their fault?

I have told you the only option out of this mess, people who adhere or who don't become irrelevant then, the only solution is a proper lockdown, otherwise we will be still going on about lockdowns till god knows when.

N_J is right. Lockdowns work so long as people follow the pretty basic rules that are in them.

Unfortunately there are a very large number of people who believe that those basic rules don't apply to them for a whole host of reasons (most of them completely illogical)

You are clearly advocating here a full lockdown where people are told to not leave the house for 2/3 weeks (or more?) but do you seriously believe those same idiots who go about things as if it is normal in our current lockdowns will do any difference

It won't go away because sadly the people who don't believe it is real won't change their habits.

And now we are back to the opening posts in this thread.

I have to disagree Phil, I mean the whole point of this conversation is what Darren posted, the chaos at the sales, and what I am saying is, what is the point in carrying on like this? It's a bloody joke, restricting certain things and then you see videos like that..

And going back to the same point, I've had enough of this, how long are we going to keep saying it's the idiots causing this? How long?

The only solution to fix this problem is a full on lockdown for 1 month, nobody moves.. No shops open, only allowed hospital or doctor appointments or pick up medication.. = Goodbye virus.
 
jack123 said:
Neath_Jack said:
Lockdowns do work, you just don't understand what they are meant to do.

It's not pretty simple, that's the issue with you, if it was that simple we would be out of it by now.

A large portion of blame lies with people who will not listen.

Lockdowns do work? Yes of course they do! That's how we have had lockdowns throughout 2020, and we still find ourselves in lockdown again, there is no other alternative apart from what I have suggested, or do you want to keep people for the next 6 months to a year, that it is their fault?

I have told you the only option out of this mess, people who adhere or who don't become irrelevant then, the only solution is a proper lockdown, otherwise we will be still going on about lockdowns till god knows when.

As i said, you don't understand what a lockdown is designed to do. A lockdown is designed to SLOW the spread, not STOP or CURE it, but to SLOW the spread of infection.

Now, for your masterplan to work, the lockdown would have to be months long, not a single month, with nobody leaving the house. Just on the food shopping part of not leaving the house as an example, are we going to starve people to death? Force them to grow their own food, or starve? Please don't say we can have food deliveries because there is nowhere near the infrastructure in place for that to work for the entire population.

Please take on board what lockdowns are designed for.
 
Listen up NJ don't patronise me, I fully understand what a lockdown is supposed to achieve, but they have not worked..

And with regards to food supplies, that can be easily done, with a little bit of brain matter.
 
jack123 said:
Listen up NJ don't patronise me, I fully understand what a lockdown is supposed to achieve, but they have not worked..

And with regards to food supplies, that can be easily done, with a little bit of brain matter.

That's the point, you don't understand what they are for because you keep saying they don't work. They do, every single one of the lockdowns have achieved what they were set out to do, they slowed the rate of infection.

As for the rest, i give up. Have a pleasant evening.
 
Neath_Jack said:
jack123 said:
Listen up NJ don't patronise me, I fully understand what a lockdown is supposed to achieve, but they have not worked..

And with regards to food supplies, that can be easily done, with a little bit of brain matter.

That's the point, you don't understand what they are for because you keep saying they don't work. They do, every single one of the lockdowns have achieved what they were set out to do, they slowed the rate of infection.

As for the rest, i give up. Have a pleasant evening.

Absolute poppycock.. ! The lockdowns don't work, and when we are still in the same position come March, perhaps you may reconsider your beliefs..

Also I think you have failed to grasp my initial reply..

Never mind, Have a lovely evening .
 
Monty said:
The selfishness of youth. Bring back national service, way too many feckless twats around these days with no direction in life nor consideration or respect for others. If you're between the age of 16 and 30, you're unemployed and not in training, pick up a rifle and get in the fuckin army.

Did you do national service ?
 
PSumbler said:
jack123 said:
Lockdowns do work? Yes of course they do! That's how we have had lockdowns throughout 2020, and we still find ourselves in lockdown again, there is no other alternative apart from what I have suggested, or do you want to keep people for the next 6 months to a year, that it is their fault?

I have told you the only option out of this mess, people who adhere or who don't become irrelevant then, the only solution is a proper lockdown, otherwise we will be still going on about lockdowns till god knows when.

N_J is right. Lockdowns work so long as people follow the pretty basic rules that are in them.

Unfortunately there are a very large number of people who believe that those basic rules don't apply to them for a whole host of reasons (most of them completely illogical)

You are clearly advocating here a full lockdown where people are told to not leave the house for 2/3 weeks (or more?) but do you seriously believe those same idiots who go about things as if it is normal in our current lockdowns will do any difference

It won't go away because sadly the people who don't believe it is real won't change their habits.

And now we are back to the opening posts in this thread.

Can you provide any evidence that people who don’t respect the lockdown, don’t believe the virus is really ? I bet you can’t.
 
Cardiffjack said:
Monty said:
The selfishness of youth. Bring back national service, way too many feckless twats around these days with no direction in life nor consideration or respect for others. If you're between the age of 16 and 30, you're unemployed and not in training, pick up a rifle and get in the fuckin army.

Did you do national service ?

No

You however, are a perfect example of why it's necessary
 
Cardiffjack said:
PSumbler said:
N_J is right. Lockdowns work so long as people follow the pretty basic rules that are in them.

Unfortunately there are a very large number of people who believe that those basic rules don't apply to them for a whole host of reasons (most of them completely illogical)

You are clearly advocating here a full lockdown where people are told to not leave the house for 2/3 weeks (or more?) but do you seriously believe those same idiots who go about things as if it is normal in our current lockdowns will do any difference

It won't go away because sadly the people who don't believe it is real won't change their habits.

And now we are back to the opening posts in this thread.

Can you provide any evidence that people who don’t respect the lockdown, don’t believe the virus is really ? I bet you can’t.

I could show you hours and hours of anti lockdown protests that have been broadcast live on youtube
 
Monty said:
Cardiffjack said:
Can you provide any evidence that people who don’t respect the lockdown, don’t believe the virus is really ? I bet you can’t.

I could show you hours and hours of anti lockdown protests that have been broadcast live on youtube

Anti lockdown does not equate to the virus isn’t really.
 
Cardiffjack said:
Monty said:
I could show you hours and hours of anti lockdown protests that have been broadcast live on youtube

Anti lockdown does not equate to the virus isn’t really.

Anti lockdown protests by covid deniers there have been dozens and dozens of protests, worldwide
 
Cardiffjack said:
PSumbler said:
N_J is right. Lockdowns work so long as people follow the pretty basic rules that are in them.

Unfortunately there are a very large number of people who believe that those basic rules don't apply to them for a whole host of reasons (most of them completely illogical)

You are clearly advocating here a full lockdown where people are told to not leave the house for 2/3 weeks (or more?) but do you seriously believe those same idiots who go about things as if it is normal in our current lockdowns will do any difference

It won't go away because sadly the people who don't believe it is real won't change their habits.

And now we are back to the opening posts in this thread.

Can you provide any evidence that people who don’t respect the lockdown, don’t believe the virus is really ? I bet you can’t.

Makes no difference, we have got to be stuck with this till god knows when, and even questioning it, yeah it's the twats spreading it, that's all they ever say with no solution.

Are you seriously that stupid to put up with this? and keep on repeating, yeah lockdowns work twats are spreading it? Come on please.
 
Monty said:
Cardiffjack said:
Anti lockdown does not equate to the virus isn’t really.

Anti lockdown protests by covid deniers there have been dozens and dozens of protests, worldwide

Evidence please of people who don’t respect the lockdown, don’t believe the virus isn’t really ?. There are now millions of people in this country who just have had enough of being locked down and has nothing to do with being virus deniers
 

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