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The US elections

The only positive here is that we know he can’t run again in four years.
You’re assuming he doesn’t change constitutional elements.

I just think this result emphasises how little we understand American culture.

It’s not just the racism it’s the the genuine belief everyone can be a millionaire and that if you get to crazy levels of wealth that’s to be respected not mocked.

The democrats have really fecked this up. They should have been explaining over and over how well the economy has been performing instead they’ve been more focused on women’s issues and moving on from Biden.

Also the Latinos really really buy into the aspirational stuff. So much to understand and learn.
 
It’s not just the racism it’s the the genuine belief everyone can be a millionaire and that if you get to crazy levels of wealth that’s to be respected not mocked.

Summed up by a fella interviewed by the BBC last week. He was an immigrant to America years ago who had worked hard and now ran his own successful business there. Who was he voting for? Trump, because he believed he would stop rampant immigration.

So a man who was an immigrant himself and has earned himself a little slice of the 'American Dream' now votes for someone who promises to stop other people having the chance he had. Let's face it, there's no hope for humanity when we're so selfish and focused on ourselves.
 
Summed up by a fella interviewed by the BBC last week. He was an immigrant to America years ago who had worked hard and now ran his own successful business there. Who was he voting for? Trump, because he believed he would stop rampant immigration.

So a man who was an immigrant himself and has earned himself a little slice of the 'American Dream' now votes for someone who promises to stop other people having the chance he had. Let's face it, there's no hope for humanity when we're so selfish and focused on ourselves.
There's a lot of that here too. I'm here, my family's here, now pull up the drawbridge.
 
The only positive here is that we know he can’t run again in four years.
You think that he’d abide by the constitution? Or the constitution and checks and balances will endure? If it’s not him, this will be an emperor dynasty now, like his hero Putin by relation or succession. Any future ‘elections’ will be fully rigged. Musk and his ilk now run America. Trump will be off playing golf..

Oh, and I’m giving up the prediction game. I couldn’t believe they could be that stupid. They will certainly reap what they’ve sown. Unfortunately we will reap it too.
 
There's a lot of that here too. I'm here, my family's here, now pull up the drawbridge.
Yes, I was speaking to a girl from China that came here at 5, brought by her parents for a ‘better life’ (her words) that voted Brexit to stop immigration and bleeds right wing Tory.
 
There does seem to be a FYIGM attitude amongst some imigrants.
 
Depressing on so many levels, Ukraine, climate change and the plight of women over there to name a few. What is wrong with people over there.
 
Summed up by a fella interviewed by the BBC last week. He was an immigrant to America years ago who had worked hard and now ran his own successful business there. Who was he voting for? Trump, because he believed he would stop rampant immigration.

So a man who was an immigrant himself and has earned himself a little slice of the 'American Dream' now votes for someone who promises to stop other people having the chance he had. Let's face it, there's no hope for humanity when we're so selfish and focused on ourselves.
I don’t disagree, he appeals to the worst in human nature.

But let’s be honest look at our recent budget. How many are willing to pay more tax to fund public services? People want other people to pay for it.
 
How can I so out of touch with the 71 million people in America who voted for him am I wrong and they are right, surly not
 
If he now has control of the Presidency, the Senate, the House of Representatives and the judges in the Supreme Court then there are no longer any checks and balances to stop him doing whatever the hell he wants.
 
If he now has control of the Presidency, the Senate, the House of Representatives and the judges in the Supreme Court then there are no longer any checks and balances to stop him doing whatever the hell he wants.
And yet he will still do nothing to benefit his supporters. "something... something... the deep state stopped me"
 
I have a question and it’s partly rhetorical.

Do you yearn for society that is “back in the day” do you have a nostalgia for another time when things were simpler?

Well what Trump does is sell this vision as something that can happen and people believe it.

Populism is not achievable but you can understand the allure to a degree.
 

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