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The 'Vitor Matos' Managerial Thread

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We've been trying to be clever for a long time. Trying to show that we've uncovered a gem for a pittance. It just hasn't worked. I think what a lot of us now want is a bit of investment into a manager - not expecting to poach a Premier League manager by any means, but I think we should be able to attract managers who have shown that they can compete well in this league by reaching playoffs and promotion. I know we're not a massive club, but we aren't the minnow that we're acting like any longer - we've had more success in the last 10-15 years than plenty of teams in all 4 divisions. We need to act like it.

I think it's also important to remember that the managers appointed from Jackett to Laudrup inclusive were coming into a club on the up, full of good feeling and riding the crest of a wave. We are a very different animal now.

As much as you want to be optimistic, there's a big part of you that can see him being sacked by March.
 
I appreciate this is pessimistic but I look at the bottom of the table and how we've performed this season and I do wonder if this is the season we go down. Or at least come very close.

You wouldn't be surprised to see Sheffield United and probably Norwich drag themselves out of where they currently are. The usual strugglers, Stoke, Derby, Hull, to a lesser degree Preston are all 6-10 points above us. Charlton (ie the worst placed promoted clubs) are 6 points ahead of us too and the other two newly promoted clubs have more points, more about them and financial power in January.

When you look at the table, it doesn't take too much of a stretch to see us down there with Oxford, Portsmouth, maybe Blackburn, fighting for 2 relegation slots.

Every metric you want to use pretty much has us down as being crap. Eyes, stats, the fact we've only beaten the bottom 3 and the team currently in 19th (and none of them very convincingly)

Unless this guy has something that none of us are aware of (maybe he interviewed for the job after Williams went?), then it seems absolutely mental appointment.
If you’re circling the drain regularly it’s inevitable you’re going to go in the end. When not if.
 
I want to acknowledge that like with every managerial appointment, especially for an unknown, there is a chance it can go well and be a success. But this is a crazy choice and I fear we are not doing it for the right reasons. He has been very active in the media building his reputation and it feels like we are basing it more on that and hearsay than any track record as a coach, just like Klopps other assistant who failed when he became a manager in Austria or the coach who just got sacked by Ajax. Maritimo have had an okay start to the season but do not look like they have been an exceptional team and they are playing against kids teams as a newly relegated side with a big budget.


It can not be a coincidence that he managed to have this interview article written about him full of praise and suddenly he is in line for our job a couple of days later when we know he was not in line when it was first published. I worry our inexperienced team have been duped by a media creation and have rushed into a decision because it is a simple one to complete and they were let down by Hellberg. I hope I am wrong and people can point and laugh about this in a years time.

All that being said at least it is not Martin.
Looks a bit like him though
 
I could understand this appointment if we also appointed an experienced director of football above him.
Truthfully I nearly made this post yesterday. All this talk of Brendan as manager, never gonna happen imo, but why not try him in a DoF role and offer him a salary and a slice, bring him on with a small share, try something different. Keep the white glove guys and the data analysts off the training pitch and entrust it to Brendan with an apprentice who we can call first team coach? Be more creative and ambitious.
 
I've not been following this too closely, but has anyone else reported this aside from Peter O'Rourke? A few of the other reports I've seen, such as WOL, all reference O'Rourke as the source. I'm not as down on POR as others as he clearly does have contacts even if he's pretty hit and miss. Be nice to have someone else verify this has legs.
 
Truthfully I nearly made this post yesterday. All this talk of Brendan as manager, never gonna happen imo, but why not try him in a DoF role and offer him a salary and a slice, bring him on with a small share, try something different. Keep the white glove guys and the data analysts off the training pitch and entrust it to Brendan with an apprentice who we can call first team coach? Be more creative and ambitious.
When Sheehan was sacked I posted about the possibility of doing something creative with ownership packages etc. obvs with Brendan or similar in mind. I genuinely thought we’d avoid this sort of appointment like the plague. I’m surprised.

Getting it wrong costs a fortune. Not only in management costs but also our player trading model doesn’t work when you’re struggling down the bottom as bigger clubs will either ignore your players as their stats and performances will look poor or alternatively screw you on valuation. If we go down, recouping fees out is hard enough let alone making a profit. Plus sponsors etc won’t want to be associated with failure or even, to be honest, mediocrity.

It’s utterly bizarre.
 
I've not been following this too closely, but has anyone else reported this aside from Peter O'Rourke? A few of the other reports I've seen, such as WOL, all reference O'Rourke as the source. I'm not as down on POR as others as he clearly does have contacts even if he's pretty hit and miss. Be nice to have someone else verify this has legs.
Vital Swansea site is bigging up how wonderful this bloke is. And they have been fed a lot of info from (rather obvious) club sources recently.
 
I've not been following this too closely, but has anyone else reported this aside from Peter O'Rourke? A few of the other reports I've seen, such as WOL, all reference O'Rourke as the source. I'm not as down on POR as others as he clearly does have contacts even if he's pretty hit and miss. Be nice to have someone else verify this has legs.
The only other thing I’ve seen about Matos apart from betting odds is from the BBC yesterday who said he was in the running. I usually take them at their word.
 
Would agree if we had Roberto Carlos and Dani Alves at their prime but we ain’t gonna get that in the championship.
Stick round pegs in round holes, don’t confuse with “ inverted play” ( whatever that is) and attack. Easy
Nothing wrong with playing 5 at the back with the right players because it's actually 3 at the back when we're in possession.
The 2 are arguably the most important players in the team though because they're got to be super fit and talented for it to work.
 

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