The 'Vitor Matos' Managerial Thread

[tardylum]

On the topic of Chris Davies, anyone else feel like we dodged a bullet there?

Not at all. People massively overreacted to a couple of weeks of mixed results. They have looked like one of the better teams in the league this season as time goes on and he coached them to a dominant league win last year. They have resources and good players but there are no real signs of him being anything other than a competent coach and we have seen many coaches do poorly with good players and resources before. The expectation that they would come up and steamroller the league was a little unrealistic. According to xG they have the 4th best attack and and best defence. I do not know if he would have succeeded here because of the state of us and our players but he has not failed for us to act like we had a lucky escape.

 

[tardylum]

There's a Portugese post online this morning saying Matos' release clause is £1m.
Significantly more than Hellberg would have cost...
I hope the club know what they're doing.

If this is true it defies belief. The cheap option quickly becoming the expensive option.

 

[Smurph]

Earlier in the season, yes. I think Birmingham have picked up recently though. The one I lament the most is Eustace, proven himself as a good manager at this level, although yet to challenge near the top, that’s mostly because he was bizarrely sacked by Birmingham and seems like he’s in a different job every season.

Eustace is a bit meh for me, think there is better out there.

in terms of Davies, he did come across in the series on Amazon as bit of a dick.

 

[Smurph]

Not at all. People massively overreacted to a couple of weeks of mixed results. They have looked like one of the better teams in the league this season as time goes on and he coached them to a dominant league win last year. They have resources and good players but there are no real signs of him being anything other than a competent coach and we have seen many coaches do poorly with good players and resources before. The expectation that they would come up and steamroller the league was a little unrealistic. According to xG they have the 4th best attack and and best defence. I do not know if he would have succeeded here because of the state of us and our players but he has not failed for us to act like we had a lucky escape.

Last season doesn't really come in to for me, they had the biggest budget in that league and met expectations.

What do you mean by the state of us and our players? We've underachieved massively this season, the playing squad is good enough to compete at the higher end of the league.

Of the pitch we're more organised than we've been for the best part of a decade.

Take away from the fact he's had a huge budget to play with at Brum, he comes across as bit of dick.

 

[WentToSchoolWith]

Vital implying on Twitter that the release clause is way off the quoted £1m

 

[Pegojack]

Vital implying on Twitter that the release clause is way off the quoted £1m

Aye, it's €1000,000, which is £881,000.

 

[cmajack]

There's a Portugese post online this morning saying Matos' release clause is £1m.
Significantly more than Hellberg would have cost...
I hope the club know what they're doing.

Seems to me we have quite rich owners and a couple of celebrities trying to raise the profile of the Swans, but the people in charge of the footballing side of the club are as clueless as they have ever been. Hope they make the right call on this, it's a massive decision.

 

[peter]

Seems to me we have quite rich owners and a couple of celebrities trying to raise the profile of the Swans, but the people in charge of the footballing side of the club are as clueless as they have ever been. Hope they make the right call on this, it's a massive decision.

you could be correct buy do not forget thr f f p rules restrict what we can and cannot do that in itself puts restrains on tghings

 

[peter]

sorry but not buy and things not tghings

 

[Copamundial]

Hope Amos is a better coach than Landlord..ruined the Woolpack up in Emmerdale.

 

[Copamundial]

Ten pager on a manager we’re……you can guess the rest

 

[Ringwood]

Hillberg is a smoggy !

 

[cmajack]

you could be correct buy do not forget thr f f p rules restrict what we can and cannot do that in itself puts restrains on tghings

Not really on about the financial side of it as such. Rumours are that Hellberg was their first choice manager after sacking Williams, and if that was the case then they should have tried to secure his services then. We also waited until 3 other clubs, all potentially with much more clout than us, had sacked their managers so we would be competing against them for candidates. You don't have to be the biggest or best club around to succeed, sometimes you just have to be the smartest, as we were years ago.

 

[cmajack]

Hillberg is a smoggy !

Hope he has a shit time up there. Scumbag.

 

[tardylum]

Last season doesn't really come in to for me, they had the biggest budget in that league and met expectations.

What do you mean by the state of us and our players? We've underachieved massively this season, the playing squad is good enough to compete at the higher end of the league.

Of the pitch we're more organised than we've been for the best part of a decade.

Take away from the fact he's had a huge budget to play with at Brum, he comes across as bit of dick.

He has managed 77 games and 60 of them were last season so disregarding them entirely makes it hard to assess any manager by that logic.

If he had taken us over when he was linked, the squad was in a worse place. I will wait to see if we have improved as much as you suggest. Off field we have changed a lot, but I am yet to be sure how organised that makes us. We are not worse off but maybe only marginally better.