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[benny]

As much as I might find the stats since 2000 amusing, I don’t think we can say we have been more successful? I think 7 seasons in the PL is better than 14 in the championship. We’ve only had 4 in the lower two, you had 9 which might be an eye opener for some of your newer Liberty stadium fans

Difference is dickhead, most of our fans are still alive to remember our success.
Your most successful recent accomplishments were running at families down the Kingsway in the 80s. Thought I'd mention that before you chime up.

They were funny looking kids :lol: saw some of your better known faces looking distinctly unhappy that day, crying almost.....we heard the inquest after was quite a lively affair too :lol: there ain’t nothing like being chased out of ones own city. It’s quite a unique accomplishment. Well done.
Now, enough of that bollocks it’s not the dark ages, here anyway.....so since 1970 saint, when you were about 10 I guess, we have spent significantly more time in higher leagues.
Enjoy your white lightening this eve.....

 

[Ebo]

The Play Offs approaching for a shot at The Premier League again and it’s absolutely dead on here.

No interest about who we’re playing etc... have people just become completely disinterested and apathetic?

Forget the standard of football this season but we've been here before with the debate

I fell out of live with football in our time in the Premier League as leeches on and off the pitch took over. Seemingly normal people talked about "the brand" and it was clear that we had become another victim of the greed

Since relegation I wanted to get that passion back and 15 months if not going hasn't helped. There isn't a single game this season I have watched intently and yesterday I watched the last 20 minutes from pride Park rather than our game. Frankly most of our players don't care so not sure i would

I looked at the site stats the other day, there is always a large number of people on here but people don't use forums much these days so the site is busy but judge it by the forum and it doesn't look it so it's far from dead but quietly ticking forum posts but more people than ever reading articles and even the forum

The final thing is for many the last 15 months has changed perspectives on life and what's important and that will contribute

Thats pretty much how I feel Phil. The PL did more harm than good but thankfully we are in better shape than we were when we last fell down the leagues from the top.

 

[benny]

Unless your a big club like villa or Leeds going up, most championship clubs will always be in relegation scrap every time they get promoted, not really much fun, So unless you have a rich benefactor you need to live by ones means in case the inevitable happens. Like I’ve always said we are a championship club and the stats here prove it. I’m hearing Tan is going for youth/academy now to try and make us sustainable, happy with that too.

 

[sainthelens]

Unless your a big club like villa or Leeds going up, most championship clubs will always be in relegation scrap every time they get promoted, not really much fun, So unless you have a rich benefactor you need to live by ones means in case the inevitable happens. Like I’ve always said we are a championship club and the stats here prove it. I’m hearing Tan is going for youth/academy now to try and make us sustainable, happy with that too.

Yet a village club like ours can stay in the PL for 7 seasons. Something yer lot will never do....you have no argument there Benny.

 

[MrSwerve]

I'm not so sure that we can use social media as an excuse for the apparent 'demise' of forums...I post and view on many football/non-football forums and they seem to be busy and thriving...the lockdown has given people time to read and post more.

It does feel that this forum is very quiet, even on match days. I have to admit that I have sometimes stopped reading the match day threads when it has been me posting to myself sometimes!

Without doubt the split from fansnetwork fragmented the community, whatever people think about some of the posters on there. There are some batsh*t crazy posters here as well as there. I find myself trying my best to just post and view here hoping that it picks up, but I do wander over to there sometimes. It does look a bit busier over there to me.

The forum software here is infinitely better though and I totally understand the reasons for moving over here. It's just a bit of a shame that visiting Planet Swans for endless hilarious meltdown threads and long OT discussion threads isn't the same any more.

You could blame Cooperball for the apathy but if we were playing entertaining football I think it would still be the same 20-odd posters posting regularly.

 

[benny]

Unless your a big club like villa or Leeds going up, most championship clubs will always be in relegation scrap every time they get promoted, not really much fun, So unless you have a rich benefactor you need to live by ones means in case the inevitable happens. Like I’ve always said we are a championship club and the stats here prove it. I’m hearing Tan is going for youth/academy now to try and make us sustainable, happy with that too.

Yet a village club like ours can stay in the PL for 7 seasons. Something yer lot will never do....you have no argument there Benny.

Shrewd management there saint, you had 3 or 4 really top ones in a row, that doesn’t happen often. Not too mention a board of “proper Jacks” :lol: Running the show....as I alluded to earlier in the thread but you either missed or chose to ignore, I said I thought that 7 seasons makes you more successful than us since 1970 or the millennium stat....we are a solid championship club and always have been.

 

[Cinio Dydd Sul]

Yea if you ignore the 18 consecutive seasons you spent outside the top 2 divisions in the 80s 90s and early 00s aye.

:lol:

And you only climbed out of the bottom two divisions then with Hammans money.

 

[Darran]

Yea if you ignore the 18 consecutive seasons you spent outside the top 2 divisions in the 80s 90s and early 00s aye.

:lol:

And you only climbed out of the bottom two divisions then with Hammans money.

Hammam. Just saying.

 

[TimBowen]

As to no excitement re the playoffs, I can't speak for others, but I've been shell-shocked by the fall off in results, standards of football and lack of management 'nouse' in the second half of the season. This leads me to dread humiliation in the playoffs, not look forward to them.
When we reached the Prem for the first time in 2011, Most Jacks were on Cloud Nine, and most thought that we had a core of quality players who could compete at the higher level, a very talented and intelligent manager, and a Board who would do what was required within their power to finance a decent attempt to stay up there. Now I think we have none of those things, and if by some chance we fluked promotion, I dread to think of the laughing stock we would become, playing week in week out against the likes of Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea.

I think Pegojack's encapsulated above how the current Swans situation has affected even the most long-standing and passionate of Swans fans.

The contrast between our collective P/O mania in 2011, compared to the almost apathetic reactions I've seen/heard recently from decades old, well entrenched Swans friends, really is shocking!

Can you imagine any PS poster, daring to suggest 'Brodge' should've been sacked, only 6 weeks before the end of the 2010/2011 season? They'd have been chased out of town! Yet we've read many more critical opinions expressed about SC on here in recent weeks.

I've been watching every televised match hoping we will regain some fluidity, some confidence, some swagger, but I've no real belief we will show the requisite passion even in the P/O matches to come. We just seem to go through the (identical) one paced motions in every match.

For me though, and I'm trying not to become depressingly melodramatic, but these next 3? matches are absolutely critical to our future prospects for perhaps the next decade? Fail in these P/O's and with no parachute payments from next season, how many of our current squad will be cherry-picked by 'richer' clubs close season? Seasons of struggle look a likely prospect ahead.

While I'm most certainly not expecting the 'Yanks' to 'splash the cash' even if we do get promoted. In fact I'd prefer they didn't to an extent. At least we can keep the core of this current squad together and add to it with the kind of clever recruitment we've already seen from Andy Scott. That doesn't mean we wouldn't witness some horrendous and 'embarrassing beatings' in the Prem next season, seeing similar results to the bottom three this season. However, we will have a kings ransom in the bank and then, the resumption of parachute payments to help sustain us.

There would be no reason why, like classic club examples WBA and Norwich, why we couldn't become a 'yo-yo' club like them, having one good promotion season, followed by a likely relegation season. It appears, the gulf between the quality of the Championship and the Prem is only widening. I would expect any investments in the squad to be of a sufficiently decent quality to give good reason why we could expect to make a fist of promotion the following season after relegation, just like Watford and perhaps Bournemouth may well do too?

While the 'star in our eyes' have been wiped away in recent seasons and our absence during the pandemic is undoubtedly a factor with our collective apathy. There is I'd suggest, still a vital need for us to get behind the boys, to help us win promotion this month, to avoid the negative scenario I've painted above.

While each of the teams we'll face in the P/O's can on any given day cause us real problems. We have only lost once in the 6 matches against them this season. Bournemouth away, during our 4 defeats in a row run, when they scored two 'worldies' to win that match. Apart from that we matched them I felt. So there are reasons to be cheerful. There are good, positive reasons to believe!

So lads, if you are one of the lucky 3,000 to get tickets for next Saturday...make sure you make some bloody noise and get behind the Swans from the start. Because the team and the fans watching at home will expect you too, will need you to. We can do it boys!

COME ON YOU SWANS!!!

 

[Darran]

As to no excitement re the playoffs, I can't speak for others, but I've been shell-shocked by the fall off in results, standards of football and lack of management 'nouse' in the second half of the season. This leads me to dread humiliation in the playoffs, not look forward to them.
When we reached the Prem for the first time in 2011, Most Jacks were on Cloud Nine, and most thought that we had a core of quality players who could compete at the higher level, a very talented and intelligent manager, and a Board who would do what was required within their power to finance a decent attempt to stay up there. Now I think we have none of those things, and if by some chance we fluked promotion, I dread to think of the laughing stock we would become, playing week in week out against the likes of Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea.

I think Pegojack's encapsulated above how the current Swans situation has affected even the most long-standing and passionate of Swans fans.

The contrast between our collective P/O mania in 2011, compared to the almost apathetic reactions I've seen/heard recently from decades old, well entrenched Swans friends, really is shocking!

Can you imagine any PS poster, daring to suggest 'Brodge' should've been sacked, only 6 weeks before the end of the 2010/2011 season? They'd have been chased out of town! Yet we've read many more critical opinions expressed about SC on here in recent weeks.

I've been watching every televised match hoping we will regain some fluidity, some confidence, some swagger, but I've no real belief we will show the requisite passion even in the P/O matches to come. We just seem to go through the (identical) one paced motions in every match.

For me though, and I'm trying not to become depressingly melodramatic, but these next 3? matches are absolutely critical to our future prospects for perhaps the next decade? Fail in these P/O's and with no parachute payments from next season, how many of our current squad will be cherry-picked by 'richer' clubs close season? Seasons of struggle look a likely prospect ahead.

While I'm most certainly not expecting the 'Yanks' to 'splash the cash' even if we do get promoted. In fact I'd prefer they didn't to an extent. At least we can keep the core of this current squad together and add to it with the kind of clever recruitment we've already seen from Andy Scott. That doesn't mean we wouldn't witness some horrendous and 'embarrassing beatings' in the Prem next season, seeing similar results to the bottom three this season. However, we will have a kings ransom in the bank and then, the resumption of parachute payments to help sustain us.

There would be no reason why, like classic club examples WBA and Norwich, why we couldn't become a 'yo-yo' club like them, having one good promotion season, followed by a likely relegation season. It appears, the gulf between the quality of the Championship and the Prem is only widening. I would expect any investments in the squad to be of a sufficiently decent quality to give good reason why we could expect to make a fist of promotion the following season after relegation, just like Watford and perhaps Bournemouth may well do too?

While the 'star in our eyes' have been wiped away in recent seasons and our absence during the pandemic is undoubtedly a factor with our collective apathy. There is I'd suggest, still a vital need for us to get behind the boys, to help us win promotion this month, to avoid the negative scenario I've painted above.

While each of the teams we'll face in the P/O's can on any given day cause us real problems. We have only lost once in the 6 matches against them this season. Bournemouth away, during our 4 defeats in a row run, when they scored two 'worldies' to win that match. Apart from that we matched them I felt. So there are reasons to be cheerful. There are good, positive reasons to believe!

So lads, if you are one of the lucky 3,000 to get tickets for next Saturday...make sure you make some bloody noise and get behind the Swans from the start. Because the team and the fans watching at home will expect you too, will need you to. We can do it boys!

COME ON YOU SWANS!!!

Outstanding post.

 

[Fireboy]

I think Pegojack's encapsulated above how the current Swans situation has affected even the most long-standing and passionate of Swans fans.

The contrast between our collective P/O mania in 2011, compared to the almost apathetic reactions I've seen/heard recently from decades old, well entrenched Swans friends, really is shocking!

Can you imagine any PS poster, daring to suggest 'Brodge' should've been sacked, only 6 weeks before the end of the 2010/2011 season? They'd have been chased out of town! Yet we've read many more critical opinions expressed about SC on here in recent weeks.

I've been watching every televised match hoping we will regain some fluidity, some confidence, some swagger, but I've no real belief we will show the requisite passion even in the P/O matches to come. We just seem to go through the (identical) one paced motions in every match.

For me though, and I'm trying not to become depressingly melodramatic, but these next 3? matches are absolutely critical to our future prospects for perhaps the next decade? Fail in these P/O's and with no parachute payments from next season, how many of our current squad will be cherry-picked by 'richer' clubs close season? Seasons of struggle look a likely prospect ahead.

While I'm most certainly not expecting the 'Yanks' to 'splash the cash' even if we do get promoted. In fact I'd prefer they didn't to an extent. At least we can keep the core of this current squad together and add to it with the kind of clever recruitment we've already seen from Andy Scott. That doesn't mean we wouldn't witness some horrendous and 'embarrassing beatings' in the Prem next season, seeing similar results to the bottom three this season. However, we will have a kings ransom in the bank and then, the resumption of parachute payments to help sustain us.

There would be no reason why, like classic club examples WBA and Norwich, why we couldn't become a 'yo-yo' club like them, having one good promotion season, followed by a likely relegation season. It appears, the gulf between the quality of the Championship and the Prem is only widening. I would expect any investments in the squad to be of a sufficiently decent quality to give good reason why we could expect to make a fist of promotion the following season after relegation, just like Watford and perhaps Bournemouth may well do too?

While the 'star in our eyes' have been wiped away in recent seasons and our absence during the pandemic is undoubtedly a factor with our collective apathy. There is I'd suggest, still a vital need for us to get behind the boys, to help us win promotion this month, to avoid the negative scenario I've painted above.

While each of the teams we'll face in the P/O's can on any given day cause us real problems. We have only lost once in the 6 matches against them this season. Bournemouth away, during our 4 defeats in a row run, when they scored two 'worldies' to win that match. Apart from that we matched them I felt. So there are reasons to be cheerful. There are good, positive reasons to believe!

So lads, if you are one of the lucky 3,000 to get tickets for next Saturday...make sure you make some bloody noise and get behind the Swans from the start. Because the team and the fans watching at home will expect you too, will need you to. We can do it boys!

COME ON YOU SWANS!!!

Outstanding post.

Agreed, let's hope the boys have a positive result on monday to give the 3k and the rest of the JA something to shout about next saturday, if they don't we should still behind them because we are all Jack Bastards.