Trump 2.0

[Neath_Jack]

This is a good read.

We now live in a world where the President of the United States is not only willing but eager to negotiate with a war criminal Vladimir Putin. He doesn’t do this out of strategic necessity, but because he possesses the mind of a child who is easily manipulated, easily flattered,… pic.twitter.com/qVGTHH2PIo

— Bricktop_NAFO (@Bricktop_NAFO) February 13, 2025

 

[J_B]

I see our wonderful ‘patriots’ are now massive fans of appeasement. Their hero Churchill would be turning in his grave, whilst Chamberlin would be smirking in his. the Conservative government led by Chamberlain, appeased Hitler in the late 1930s. Mosley and the far right supported the government. Churchill was against this idea, sensing appeasing a dictator like Hitler would backfire. When it did, spectacularly, in 1940 Churchill was appointed prime minister.

The Conservative government led by Chamberlain, appeased Hitler in the late 1930s. Mosley and the far right unsurprisingly supported that government. Churchill was against this idea, sensing appeasing a dictator like Hitler would backfire. When it did, spectacularly, in 1940 Churchill was appointed prime minister.

 

[Neath_Jack]

I am incandescent with rage right now. I feel sick to the stomach. A US Vice President stood today on the soil of where so many Americans gave their lives to defeat fascism in Europe. He delivered a disgraceful speech that spat on their graves. Not that we should expect any… pic.twitter.com/ACuJ3GDhhw

— 𝔗𝔯𝔲𝔱𝔥 𝔐𝔞𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 (@politicsusa46) February 14, 2025

 

[Pentyrchjack]

Megalomaniacs in power in USA, Russian and China.

Wouldn't be surprised to see them carve up the world into 3 new continents and western Europe and UK become part of Moscow rule.

 

[Niigata Jack]

Isn't this just another (albeit escalated) version of the usual Trump playbook? Threaten other countries with some batshit insane idea, softening them up when it comes to the negotiating table?

It looks like Canada and Mexico are agreeing to do some of what he wants (border security) now they've been threatened with tariffs. I can't see how bullying and threatening supposed allies will work in the long term (not to mention it's reprehensible behaviour for a country that styled itself as 'the leader of the free world'), but it seems to be working in the short term. Also probably a good insight into his business dealings over the years, essentially all his 'art of the deal' nonsense boils down to having the bigger stick and threatening to use it.

This time he's got Musk behind him making the bullets for Trump to fire, a dangerous collaboration. IMO of course.

 

[jack123]

This is a good read.

We now live in a world where the President of the United States is not only willing but eager to negotiate with a war criminal Vladimir Putin. He doesn’t do this out of strategic necessity, but because he possesses the mind of a child who is easily manipulated, easily flattered,… pic.twitter.com/qVGTHH2PIo

— Bricktop_NAFO (@Bricktop_NAFO) February 13, 2025

I must say, it really does make my eyebrows roll, when people criticise Trump. We are not living in some perfect Utopia, where Trump has come along, and upsetsthe applecart.

IMO the World is in a mess, someone comes along with different ideas for peace, then so be it.

The way the World is now, not very good, so I can't understand the pushback against Trump, it's not like Biden did a fantastic job, I just think end the war in Ukraine at all costs, and then talk, it's just sacrificing peoples lives for frankly nothing!

 

[exiledclaseboy]

I must say, it really does make my eyebrows roll, when people criticise Trump. We are not living in some perfect Utopia, where Trump has come along, and upsetsthe applecart.

IMO the World is in a mess, someone comes along with different ideas for peace, then so be i

The way the World is now, not very good, so I can't understand the pushback against Trump, it's not like Biden did a fantastic job, I just think end the war in Ukraine at all costs, and then talk, it's just sacrificing peoples lives for frankly nothing!

Yeah but you’re gullible as fuck, thick as mince and literally exactly the sort of person the likes of MAGA, Reform, AFD etc rely upon. Useful idiots

 

[jack123]

Yeah but you’re gullible as fuck, thick as mince and literally exactly the sort of person the likes of MAGA, Reform, AFD sec rely upon. Useful idiots

I am sorry you feel that way. The world is in chaos, but it's all Trumps fault. He has literally been in power for 4 or 5 weeks.

Anyway you missed the ACTUAL point of my post, on a seismic scale.

Edit: And just for the record Ecb, I am not a great fan of any of those, but when the opposition are complete turds, who do you vote for? I think Reform will come pretty close to winning the next election, I'll vote for them, simply because Labour are absolute rubbish. Heard some rumours Boris Johnson may join reform, great stuff, this Labour and Tory needs to be dismantled completely.

Same as the Senedd, the Labour muppets will be OUT, next Senedd election, and it will be delicious.

 

[jack123]

It would be funny, if it wasn't so absurd There are kids dying in Africa and other countries of starvation and neglect, yet here we are focusing on Trump.

My view, it's unbelievable. It's an absolute what the fuck actual moment, when Elon Musk shared the screenshots of where the money has been spent. I mean who would really do that in a sane world, give money to LGBT stuff, or feed and look after vulnerable children..

I know what I would do. But I guess I'm just a useless gullible person.

 

[Skippyjack]

I must say, it really does make my eyebrows roll, when people criticise Trump. We are not living in some perfect Utopia, where Trump has come along, and upsetsthe applecart.

IMO the World is in a mess, someone comes along with different ideas for peace, then so be it.

The way the World is now, not very good, so I can't understand the pushback against Trump, it's not like Biden did a fantastic job, I just think end the war in Ukraine at all costs, and then talk, it's just sacrificing peoples lives for frankly nothing!

It depends on whether the Ukrainian authorities will stop arresting and interrogating ethnic Russians in Crimea, the whole reason why this war is on-going

 

[jack123]

It depends on whether the Ukrainian authorities will stop arresting and interrogating ethnic Russians in Crimea, the whole reason why this war is on-going

Yes, I mean purely my whole point is , this should be resolved by diplomacy, people are slagging Trump off for what? He has only just came into power, I think this needleless loss of life, could have been averted a long time ago, I think this needles loss of life on both sides, could have been averted a long time ago, if there was a decent leader to talk about it.

It kind of sickens me, such a waste of life, yet it seems some people are just fanning the flames further.

 

[Skippyjack]

Yes, I mean purely my whole point is , this should be resolved by diplomacy, people are slagging Trump off for what? He has only just came into power, I think this needleless loss of life, could have been averted a long time ago, I think this needles loss of life on both sides, could have been averted a long time ago, if there was a decent leader to talk about it.

It kind of sickens me, such a waste of life, yet it seems some people are just fanning the flames further.

I've said this before, judge the world and decisions by the economy, people are earning a packet from blowing people up, some businesses want war because they know that rivals are f*cked, oil, gas, steel, resources.. Farage is an imperialist, who believes in a class system, he believes Britain is in a higher class threshold to other counterparts..

 

[jack123]

I've said this before, judge the world and decisions by the economy, people are earning a packet from blowing people up, some businesses want war because they know that rivals are f*cked, oil, gas, steel, resources.. Farage is an imperialist, who believes in a class system, he believes Britain is in a higher class threshold to other counterparts..

Its really sad Skip, we should not be at this stage. I have seen enough videos on X, drones killing people, close combat killing, it's totally abhorrent IMO.

Just slightly angered me, why people would try and deflect towards Trump for the war, IMO They witnessed Biden for the last few years, and then come out with the hatred of Trump, when he has zero to do with it, A strong leader, would have put this to bed, a long time ago.

 

[Skippyjack]

Its really sad Skip, we should not be at this stage. I have seen enough videos on X, drones killing people, close combat killing, it's totally abhorrent IMO.

Just slightly angered me, why people would try and deflect towards Trump for the war, IMO They witnessed Biden for the last few years, and then come out with the hatred of Trump, when he has zero to do with it, A strong leader, would have put this to bed, a long time ago.

Trump isn't meeting Putin to stop the war, he's probably attempting to broker a USA and Russia business deal, I don't read books on economical prosperity, I don't read books, it clouds and categorises your brain to think in a particular way, everyone thinks TV is a brainwashing tool, you can read any tw*t from a book and books go deep into the crevice of coercion

 

[Pegojack]

Western europe including the UK needs to massively upscale its military forces to counter the threat of Putin once he's digested the 20% of Ukraine which Trump is about to hand him on a plate.
Then they need to fastrack Ukraine into the EU and impose an enforced 'no fly zone' over the whole country.
We need to stand up to the neofascists now, or we're f*cked. And that includes our own Neofascists like Farage. We'll get no help from the US, time to stand on our own two feet.