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Thanks for that Phil Im sure you are actually seething inside and annoyed after the effort that went into this.PSumbler said:Witneyjack said:What's your opinion Phil? You put years of work on this.
Other than the four years of my life wasted on endless calls, detail and trying to get this to a palatable stage where we had a decent resolution (And forget the views on the initial deal but it makes this one look positively brilliant!) I'm apathetic and not surprised.
I don't want to - and I won't attack individuals but we have settled this whole legal dispute for a paltry £500k rising to a maximum £2m which is dependent on three years in the Premier League. (Which in reality would probably have been paid as a dividend anyway)
The 5% is neither here nor there and not sure about the "never be sold" mantra - what if it was actually beneficial to sell it.
There appears to be an imminent dilution of the Trusts shares through - presumably - the conversion of the loan and the fact that the other 10% is exposed, one more loan note from Mr Silverstein and thatis just about gone.
But we have rights as a director (which is directors box privileges noted in a recent minutes as needing to be used) and someone else to pour the teas at board meetings (as an observer)
The £500k is probably less than paid out progressing the action mandated by the members and I wonder if the lawyers will want an extra payment from that given they can easily claim that they helped negotiate a settlement (remember they were always for mediation time and time again)
In answer to someone asking how I felt? Sadly I think this has had the feeling of inevitability for several months now - the talk of "getting up to speed" never made sense given the people getting up to speed were part of the board for several years and we shouldnt lose sight of the time element that could have seen legal action timed out.
My final gambit (for now) is one that says it would take an incredibly stupid/brave* (delete as appropriate) board to go against the wishes of the members, the reaction of that membership will tell you much
I've tried to be measured there, I am sure I may have a longer say at some stage soon!
crazedbison said:What’s the path forward?
Only thing I can think of is that we have to go guerrilla.
PSumbler said:Witneyjack said:What's your opinion Phil? You put years of work on this.
Other than the four years of my life wasted on endless calls, detail and trying to get this to a palatable stage where we had a decent resolution (And forget the views on the initial deal but it makes this one look positively brilliant!) I'm apathetic and not surprised.
I don't want to - and I won't attack individuals but we have settled this whole legal dispute for a paltry £500k rising to a maximum £2m which is dependent on three years in the Premier League. (Which in reality would probably have been paid as a dividend anyway)
The 5% is neither here nor there and not sure about the "never be sold" mantra - what if it was actually beneficial to sell it.
There appears to be an imminent dilution of the Trusts shares through - presumably - the conversion of the loan and the fact that the other 10% is exposed, one more loan note from Mr Silverstein and thatis just about gone.
But we have rights as a director (which is directors box privileges noted in a recent minutes as needing to be used) and someone else to pour the teas at board meetings (as an observer)
The £500k is probably less than paid out progressing the action mandated by the members and I wonder if the lawyers will want an extra payment from that given they can easily claim that they helped negotiate a settlement (remember they were always for mediation time and time again)
In answer to someone asking how I felt? Sadly I think this has had the feeling of inevitability for several months now - the talk of "getting up to speed" never made sense given the people getting up to speed were part of the board for several years and we shouldnt lose sight of the time element that could have seen legal action timed out.
My final gambit (for now) is one that says it would take an incredibly stupid/brave* (delete as appropriate) board to go against the wishes of the members, the reaction of that membership will tell you much
I've tried to be measured there, I am sure I may have a longer say at some stage soon!
cmajack said:Bryanswan said:Glad i haven't given to the trust in years, proved right that they are pointless bunch who like to sit in the posh seats.
Never less than 5% shares, guess theyll be diluted down to that in no time.
My sentiment entirely, haven't given anything to them in years , and certainly won't in the future either. People like Phil and Darran must be absolutely fuming.
Vetchonian said:Thanks for that Phil Im sure you are actually seething inside and annoyed after the effort that went into this.PSumbler said:Other than the four years of my life wasted on endless calls, detail and trying to get this to a palatable stage where we had a decent resolution (And forget the views on the initial deal but it makes this one look positively brilliant!) I'm apathetic and not surprised.
I don't want to - and I won't attack individuals but we have settled this whole legal dispute for a paltry £500k rising to a maximum £2m which is dependent on three years in the Premier League. (Which in reality would probably have been paid as a dividend anyway)
The 5% is neither here nor there and not sure about the "never be sold" mantra - what if it was actually beneficial to sell it.
There appears to be an imminent dilution of the Trusts shares through - presumably - the conversion of the loan and the fact that the other 10% is exposed, one more loan note from Mr Silverstein and thatis just about gone.
But we have rights as a director (which is directors box privileges noted in a recent minutes as needing to be used) and someone else to pour the teas at board meetings (as an observer)
The £500k is probably less than paid out progressing the action mandated by the members and I wonder if the lawyers will want an extra payment from that given they can easily claim that they helped negotiate a settlement (remember they were always for mediation time and time again)
In answer to someone asking how I felt? Sadly I think this has had the feeling of inevitability for several months now - the talk of "getting up to speed" never made sense given the people getting up to speed were part of the board for several years and we shouldnt lose sight of the time element that could have seen legal action timed out.
My final gambit (for now) is one that says it would take an incredibly stupid/brave* (delete as appropriate) board to go against the wishes of the members, the reaction of that membership will tell you much
I've tried to be measured there, I am sure I may have a longer say at some stage soon!
It seems the current board are more interested in the quodos than the actual function and rationale of the Trust..
T all seems crazy to me but Ims sure certain peeps will enjoy their matchdays in the Directors box.....while it lasts!
PSumbler said:Vetchonian said:Thanks for that Phil Im sure you are actually seething inside and annoyed after the effort that went into this.
It seems the current board are more interested in the quodos than the actual function and rationale of the Trust..
T all seems crazy to me but Ims sure certain peeps will enjoy their matchdays in the Directors box.....while it lasts!
The day the Trust turned into a supporters club as opposed to an organisation concerned with the overall governance of a football club