West Brom plan talks with Swans boss Williams

[Andrew - North Hill]

I wish with all my heart that the f****r had come back to us when he wanted to. But no, we had to have Bradley instead.

Brendan wasn't in the frame when we appointed Bradley. He was already in at Celtic by then. We'd missed our chance with him earlier that summer, instead we gave it to Guidolin permanently, even though it was pretty much an open secret that it was Curt who had kept us up the season before not him.

Was, and probably always will be, the single most stupid managerial decision in the club's history. As bad as the owners were there's no way we'd have been anywhere near relegation under Brendan.

 

[LaJollaJack]

The reason coaches try to ape Pep is because let's face it he's the most successful manager of all time. His methods work. The emphasis is on controlling games by having the ball.

Some coaches are really good at aping it. Some not so much.

I quite like it, I like seeing a team have control of the ball and keeping it away from the opposition. I mean, our Roberto and Brendan teams were modelled on it, and they did alright.

But if you prefer a more end to end, up and down, fast paced game with loads of shots and crosses going in the box - like Klopp's teams for example - then it probably isn't for you.

It all depends what your taste is, I guess.

This is the proper whoosh moment of the year. As per. There should be an award …..

And ever so typical of the ‘Oh so binary’ merchants that painted themselves into the twps’ Martin corner. Where all perspective of winning, winning effectively, efficiently and entertainingly was lost.

The Swanseaway is special, it’s off the scale nuanced.
Limited of thinking, agenda driven posters will never ‘see’ this no matter how hard they pretend to deflect.

 

[LaJollaJack]

Aye I remember Laudrup talking at great length about possession with penetration.
Tapping the ball back and forth between centre halves when you are 1-0 down with 5 mins to play was not his idea of possession football.

Laudrup wasn’t in desperate need to boost/salvage a managerial career in it’s decline like Martin and now Williams is doing.

Williams has been in last chance saloon (fact) and has desperately regressed us into possession stats optimisation above ALL else, including winning games - it’s a pattern established and mastered by Martin.

Fortunately for us fans, our owners and senior player are now on it. This time.

 

[Ringwood]

Laudrup wasn’t in desperate need to boost/salvage a managerial career in it’s decline like Martin and now Williams is doing.

Williams has been in last chance saloon (fact) and has desperately regressed us into possession stats optimisation above ALL else, including winning games - it’s a pattern established and mastered by Martin.

Fortunately for us fans, our owners and senior player are now on it. This time.

Do you not see LW growing into a successful coach ?

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

This is the proper whoosh moment of the year. As per. There should be an award …..

And ever so typical of the ‘Oh so binary’ merchants that painted themselves into the twps’ Martin corner. Where all perspective of winning, winning effectively, efficiently and entertainingly was lost.

The Swanseaway is special, it’s off the scale nuanced.
Limited of thinking, agenda driven posters will never ‘see’ this no matter how hard they pretend to deflect.

Careful chucking the word 'binary' around there. Can get you in a lot of trouble these days.

 

[LaJollaJack]

Do you not see LW growing into a successful coach ?

Absolutely not, far too deficient in the basics.

More to the point - if you were a new, new owner would you support him and his lack of pedigree, his obvious failings playing to the same playbook as his failed mentor?

And not forgetting he got sacked off for very good reason the last time he was sacked off.

There’s only one way this is heading.

 

[LaJollaJack]

Careful chucking the word 'binary' around there. Can get you in a lot of trouble these days.

True to form, you always deflect.

Warra cop out

 

[Ringwood]

Absolutely not, far too deficient in the basics.

More to the point - if you were a new, new owner would you support him and his lack of pedigree, his obvious failings playing to the same playbook as his failed mentor?

And not forgetting he got sacked off for very good reason the last time he was sacked off.

There’s only one way this is heading.

So what if we finish 8th with the current squad?...

 

[K23]

Is it on YouTube or somewhere similar? I need to watch it again.

I have it on my laptop. Try this dropbox link https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rx6c...2012.avi?rlkey=189rxlo1qbl0ndhnhapiqyew6&dl=0

 

[K23]

I'd like to think so, not looked if I'm honest.

Will pop something on here if I manage to find anything.

Dropbox

www.dropbox.com

 

[Smurph]

Dropbox

www.dropbox.com

Top man

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

If he stays, great, if he goes, great.

We've lost far better managers than Williams.

It could mean a manager coming in who prefers possession with purpose like Brendan and Laudrup did. I’m all for that - I just hope we don’t go for an “up and coming league two manager with 76% average possession stats playing it round the back”.

To be fair Williams isnt THAT bad but there’s always better out there if the club are willing to search Europe etc

 

[Dr. Winston]

Must be honest, the idea that the Alan Curtis who, despite being a club legend has never shown any real aptitude for coaching and seemed to have been kept around more for morale purposes than anything else, was more responsible for our Premier League survival than the hugely respected coach with a track record of delivering relative success on much lower budgets than many of his competitors always struck me as one of the odder theories from that period.

Had we kept him on and actually supported him instead of undermining him from within I think we'd have done quite well in the longer term. I'm not sure if Rodgers Vs Levien was likely to be a recipe for success.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

Must be honest, the idea that the Alan Curtis who, despite being a club legend has never shown any real aptitude for coaching and seemed to have been kept around more for morale purposes than anything else, was more responsible for our Premier League survival than the hugely respected coach with a track record of delivering relative success on much lower budgets than many of his competitors always struck me as one of the odder theories from that period.

It's not a "theory" - most of our best results, and the run of games that really took away the threat of going down that season, came during the several weeks Guidolin was in hospital.

 

[CurtessECarr]

Still find Williams as a target for WBA strange.
When Corberan left not for one minute did it occur to me they would go for Williams.
I'm still on the fence about him. However part of me would like to see him complete the season.
Similarly if he does get the gig. I have no inkling who we would look at.