Working Person

[Pentyrchjack]

In terms of definition, what happens if you are defined by Govt as not a "working person" but you still "work"?

 

[Neath_Jack]

In terms of definition, what happens if you are defined by Govt as not a "working person" but you still "work"?

You’ll find out in the budget.

 

[Smurph]

You’ll find out in the budget.

I've got my popcorn ready

 

[Cooperman]

A hike in employer NI contributions sounds like it’s written into the plan, that’s going to hurt businesses and push prices up.

Not sure the working man will get away scot free either, tax hikes on things like property sale or shares can still hit the average working person.

 

[Niigata Jack]

A hike in employer NI contributions sounds like it’s written into the plan, that’s going to hurt businesses and push prices up.

Not sure the working man will get away scot free either, tax hikes on things like property sale or shares can still hit the average working person.

We're not getting away with anything it'll hit us in a roundabout way, hike in employer NI contributions could lead to job loses, increased bills that are already high, the price of the products we buy will increase they'll make sure we'll suffer without a doubt!

 

[monmouth]

A hike in employer NI contributions sounds like it’s written into the plan, that’s going to hurt businesses and push prices up.

Not sure the working man will get away scot free either, tax hikes on things like property sale or shares can still hit the average working person.

Their own stupid fault for boxing themselves into such a brain dead corner. Just need to reverse the NI cut that Jeremy C**t couldn’t afford to do, put a penny on higher and top rate tax and raise the thresholds not freeze them further. Cowardly bunch, are now scratching around trying to be clever.

 

[Cooperman]

We're not getting away with anything it'll hit us in a roundabout way, hike in employer NI contributions could lead to job loses, increased bills that are already high, the price of the products we buy will increase they'll make sure we'll suffer without a doubt!

Yep, buckle in.

The Tory party now needs to put extreme pressure on Labour regarding publication of reform plans for public services like the NHS. We can’t keep pouring good money after bad, the talking is over and Labour now have to deliver reform.

 

[Cooperman]

Their own stupid fault for boxing themselves into such a brain dead corner. Just need to reverse the NI cut that Jeremy C**t couldn’t afford to do, put a penny on higher and top rate tax and raise the thresholds not freeze them further. Cowardly bunch, are now scratching around trying to be clever.

Precisely. Starmer and Reeves could have easily explained the reversal and painted the picture of Hunt doing it to win an election.

 

[Robbie]

All of Starmers manifesto pledges are backfiring big time now .

Control of the small boats issue , but record numbers now published show the lie .

Stealth Taxes and re- wording of their promises on NI payments another lie .

Thought the last lot were bad .
Labour the Party of the working man as once was , lets hit hard working savers first .

 

[exiledclaseboy]

All of Starmers manifesto pledges are backfiring big time now .

Control of the small boats issue , but record numbers now published show the lie .

Stealth Taxes and re- wording of their promises on NI payments another lie .

Thought the last lot were bad .
Labour the Party of the working man as once was , lets hit hard working savers first .

Three months. Fourteen years. Get a grip.

 

[jack_lord]

Are we going to Blame the Labour Government for beginning to repair the the hapless Conservative administration?
They have to do something, can we all agree on that or do we just want to blame Labour for happened when they were not in charge?

 

[monmouth]

Three months. Fourteen years. Get a grip.

The papers are full of 'Starmer's Lies'. Do Leveson 2,3 and 4 Starmer ffs.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

The papers are full of 'Starmer's Lies'. Do Leveson 2,3 and 4 Starmer ffs.

And the usual suspects who “hate all politicians equally” fall for it every time. The Budget is gonna sting. It’s gonna cost us all. But this is governing. One of the reasons we’re in this mess is that the last government did very little actual governing, made very few decisions and instead concentrated on desperately trying to cling to power, ideological folly (Brexit) and getting a decent headline in the right wing press through stupid culture war propaganda. That and the rampant corruption and gross incompetence of course. We now have an actual government, one that will take decisions. We might not like or agree with some or all of those decisions but at least they’re being taken, albeit about a decade late.

 

[Swanjaxs]

And the usual suspects who “hate all politicians equally” fall for it every time. The Budget is gonna sting. It’s gonna cost us all. But this is governing. One of the reasons we’re in this mess is that the last government did very little actual governing, made very few decisions and instead concentrated on desperately trying to cling to power, ideological folly (Brexit) and getting a decent headline in the right wing press through stupid culture war propaganda. That and the rampant corruption and gross incompetence of course. We now have an actual government, one that will take decisions. We might not like or agree with some or all of those decisions but at least they’re being taken, albeit about a decade late.

Personally, 14 years of Tory government stung us all more imho, no quick fix to that clusterfuck, it takes however long it takes...

 

[rockinj]

And the usual suspects who “hate all politicians equally” fall for it every time. The Budget is gonna sting. It’s gonna cost us all. But this is governing. One of the reasons we’re in this mess is that the last government did very little actual governing, made very few decisions and instead concentrated on desperately trying to cling to power, ideological folly (Brexit) and getting a decent headline in the right wing press through stupid culture war propaganda. That and the rampant corruption and gross incompetence of course. We now have an actual government, one that will take decisions. We might not like or agree with some or all of those decisions but at least they’re being taken, albeit about a decade late.

Agreed. I’m sure there’ll be some micro changes at the margins that I’ll disagree with but fundamentally they are actually making decisions.

The public just won’t accept that sometimes there is pain for long term gain. It’s soul destroying how quick people drift into the “all the same” crap.

As we can see in the States unfortunately a lot of people just like being lied to. They don’t want to recognise that Governing. True Governing. Is difficult.

I hope they hold their nerve in a number of areas. I don’t blame them for going into election not being completely upfront, that would have meant weeks of propaganda. Decisions have to be made.