25/26 | The Official Match Thread | Hull 2 Swansea 1 | Att: 21,912 | 24/01/26 | The EFL Championship | The MKM Stadium

[Swanjaxs]

3-2.

He missed two sitters not one.

I'd have scored the first one! On a side note, both chances set up by a couple of quality crosses into the six yard box by Tymon

 

[Londonlisa2001]

In my opinion I didn't see it like that, Lisa. Idiotic giveaway and we're chasing the game, he's never been a captain, and would be in and out of any other team. His headers in the opposition box are, frankly, pitiful. No idea how to get above the ball and head it down. We're a team that's now nearly there. Get a genuine right back in, and give the captaincy to Tymon. Any other game Vipotnik takes his chances. Get the recruitment right and we'll start beating most teams. I lost count how many times Key lost the ball when he came on in the 2nd half. Clearly not good enough. But overall we were the better team, barring a stupid decision by our "captain".

The first Vipotnik sitter was only about 2 minutes later though. So we wouldn’t have been chasing the game for long.

And Cabango is being very harshly criticised. He made a horrible mistake today but has had a good season. He’s never been good going forward.

I think we are some way from being there to be honest. We have very little actual threat going forward most of the time. We seem to be doing ok but we really are not creating very much at all. Ironically the two chances we created today for Vipotnik were as good as we’ve created from open play for a while. Many of his goals this year have been from half chances if that. Plus we’ve had some worldies from Franco, Tymon, Eom, even Fulton. Our long range shooting has been better recently as well, and our set pieces.
We haven’t done so well in creating genuinely good chances from open play.

We need quality out wide and in the middle. Plus we’ve have to have some ability to swap round with Vipotnik. It may be that his misses were partly tiredness. He looked like he was running through treacle second half.

 

[Swans Jack]

In my opinion I didn't see it like that, Lisa. Idiotic giveaway and we're chasing the game, he's never been a captain, and would be in and out of any other team. His headers in the opposition box are, frankly, pitiful. No idea how to get above the ball and head it down. We're a team that's now nearly there. Get a genuine right back in, and give the captaincy to Tymon. Any other game Vipotnik takes his chances. Get the recruitment right and we'll start beating most teams. I lost count how many times Key lost the ball when he came on in the 2nd half. Clearly not good enough. But overall we were the better team, barring a stupid decision by our "captain".

My mindset is I would rather be a team on the cusp of getting a lot of goals than a team struggling in all areas. I agree with you, and think we are not that far off. Get a few quality players in and we'll do well. Considering where we was at under Sheehan, compared to now it's night and day.

 

[Swans Jack]

We are going to lose games. We’ll get hammered a few times as well no doubt.

We’re not going to have a team of £10m+ plus players all over the park so don’t expect them to be on top form every game.

It’s a decent enough squad we have, and a more than decent manager from early showing.

Some of you need to get a grip and be realistic ffs, spoilt by our time in the premier league some of you.

Pretty dour first half, second much better and we deserved at LEAST the draw, away to a team flying at the moment.

Uppafuckingswans and we go again.

This needs to the last statement of the day . Well said

 

[eteb]

In my opinion I didn't see it like that, Lisa. Idiotic giveaway and we're chasing the game, he's never been a captain, and would be in and out of any other team. His headers in the opposition box are, frankly, pitiful. No idea how to get above the ball and head it down. We're a team that's now nearly there. Get a genuine right back in, and give the captaincy to Tymon. Any other game Vipotnik takes his chances. Get the recruitment right and we'll start beating most teams. I lost count how many times Key lost the ball when he came on in the 2nd half. Clearly not good enough. But overall we were the better team, barring a stupid decision by our "captain".

That's exactly right about his heading. He does it week in week out, just spoons it miles over the bar with no semblance of power. Fucking infuriating

 

[Treehuggerjack]

Played fantastically well, couple of Vipotnik sitters missed and a crazy penalty, both out of character for them.

Squad is really starting to click. Clearly missed Widell and Stamenic from the start, I’m sure both will be ready to go for Watford.

Good points
I know Cullen scored but he didn’t do enough for me, I must say I missed large parts due to terrible stream.
What I did see in the second half was a dominant display in the second half against team hoping to be in the playoffs

 

[MrSwerve]

We don't have the best striker by a long way

I know Monny, hence the wink mun!

Keeper though? Possibly!

 

[Londonlisa2001]

I know Monny, hence the wink mun!

Keeper though? Possibly!

He’s as good a keeper as we’ve had for a long time. Best since Fab in my opinion.

 

[sit_down_jack]

The first Vipotnik sitter was only about 2 minutes later though. So we wouldn’t have been chasing the game for long.

And Cabango is being very harshly criticised. He made a horrible mistake today but has had a good season. He’s never been good going forward.

I think we are some way from being there to be honest. We have very little actual threat going forward most of the time. We seem to be doing ok but we really are not creating very much at all. Ironically the two chances we created today for Vipotnik were as good as we’ve created from open play for a while. Many of his goals this year have been from half chances if that. Plus we’ve had some worldies from Franco, Tymon, Eom, even Fulton. Our long range shooting has been better recently as well, and our set pieces.
We haven’t done so well in creating genuinely good chances from open play.

We need quality out wide and in the middle. Plus we’ve have to have some ability to swap round with Vipotnik. It may be that his misses were partly tiredness. He looked like he was running through treacle second half.

Agree re Cabango. Lots of harsh criticism when that’s really the only glaring mistake he’s made this season, usually solid. I do think that we may have to eventually get quicker CBs to make this style of play really work but that’s a different conversation.

I would say certainly in the last 3 or 4 games we’ve consistently created clear cut chances. Quality in finishing is what concerns me the most.

 

[monmouth]

Agree re Cabango. Lots of harsh criticism when that’s really the only glaring mistake he’s made this season, usually solid. I do think that we may have to eventually get quicker CBs to make this style of play really work but that’s a different conversation.

I would say certainly in the last 3 or 4 games we’ve consistently created clear cut chances. Quality in finishing is what concerns me the most.

Quality in that final thrust is what concerns me. I would say we are creating far more clear cut possibilities but not turning them into clear chances.

 

[Treehuggerjack]

Quality in that final thrust is what concerns me. I would say we are creating far more clear cut possibilities but not turning them into clear chances.

I think we are creating far more and even chances, we are just not converting them. Hopefully the law of averages says that we start scoring a lot more

 

[LeonWasTheDogs]

We didn’t lose the game because of Cabango.

We lost the game because we can’t score.

Really? That doesn’t sound like us

Same old, same old. At lest we know the problem. We’ve no problem getting into decent positions, so mostly we’re doing the right things. We just don’t have the players to make the most of them.

 

[monmouth]

I think we are creating far more and even chances, we are just not converting them. Hopefully the law of averages says that we start scoring a lot more

What I mean is, for example, we were though and in space on the right of the box quite few times today in the second half and it didn’t once turn into a shot on goal.

 

[Bluenile]

Just a point, and I'm going to be a touch anal here: people talk about what might have been if Vipotnik had taken his chance/s AND Cabango hadn't given that penalty away, we would have been 2-0 up. Now here's the rub. If the first thing never happens, then the 2nd and 3rd phases almost certainly never occur. Think about it, change the pen, Cabango doesn't have his moment of madness, then every single thing that happens afterwards is totally different. We might have won 4-2, or we might have lost 5-0. Everything that happens depends on what happens before it. If a player shoots and scores the rest of the game is different to what would happen if he misses, or the keeper saves the shot. Change any moment in a game and the thereafter changes, in total.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Just a point, and I'm going to be a touch anal here: people talk about what might have been if Vipotnik had taken his chance/s AND Cabango hadn't given that penalty away, we would have been 2-0 up. Now here's the rub. If the first thing never happens, then the 2nd and 3rd phases almost certainly never occur. Think about it, change the pen, Cabango doesn't have his moment of madness, then every single thing that happens afterwards is totally different. We might have won 4-2, or we might have lost 5-0. Everything that happens depends on what happens before it. If a player shoots and scores the rest of the game is different to what would happen if he misses, or the keeper saves the shot. Change any moment in a game and the thereafter changes, in total.

Chaos theory