Melker Widell

[TruckerJack]

A structure would be a club pays a set amount at set intervals no matter of what happens following the transfer.

A clause (the one you are referring to) would be when a club pays extra in future but only when certain agreed milestones are achieved.

Depends on what the clauses are as I explained previously. I don't see Celtic or anyone else realistically agreeing to a clause for a milestones that'll never probably be met.

No that’s amortisation. A structure is how the total fee is reached, appearances, goals, promotion bonus etc etc

The clause that may never be met would be an added bonus, not part of the guaranteed fee. If Celtic only paid a £2 million guaranteed fee wi eh the rest on clauses that weren’t hit, then why wouldn’t they accept a £2 million fee with a chance to triple it up to £6 million based on a clause?

 

[TruckerJack]

See, you are capable of critical thought, so dont pretend you dont think about things but then criticise others for doing so.

Critical thought isn’t basing opinions on guesses and ignoring cost to club structures.

 

[Cinio Dydd Sul]

Critical thought isn’t basing opinions on guesses and ignoring cost to club structures.

You ignore transfer fees altogether though apparently!

 

[TruckerJack]

You ignore transfer fees altogether though apparently!

I ignore other peoples guesses of transfer fees yes, because headline figures are notoriously inaccurate and don’t take into consideration actual cost to club.

I base my judgement on the player on the criteria I set out. Does he help us remain a mid table champ side? does he show he can take us further? does he make us worse than a mid table champ side?

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Unless you work for the club and were involved in the deal, you have no idea whatsoever., just like the rest of us.

Well there surely won’t be anyone posting on this thread who ticks both those boxes. No way, Pedro.

 

[Cinio Dydd Sul]

I ignore other peoples guesses of transfer fees yes, because headline figures are notoriously inaccurate and don’t take into consideration actual cost to club.

I base my judgement on the player on the criteria I set out. Does he help us remain a mid table champ side, does he show he can take us further, does he make us worse.

Yes I know thats what you claim to do, even though like the Bony example its a ridiculous stance because transfer fees can and should alter the assessment of a signing because it can have a profound affect on the club.

And you delude yourself too - when a player isn't performing you ignore your criteria and say its too early.

 

[TruckerJack]

Yes I know thats what you claim to do, even though like the Bony example its a ridiculous stance because transfer fees can and should alter the assessment of a signing because it can have a profound affect on the club.

And you delude yourself too - when a player isn't performing you ignore your criteria and say its too early.

But you don’t know the transfer fees?

I haven’t ignored it, I just told you Benson was a poor one. The rest are either back ups, contributing to making us a mid table championship side or showing potential to kick us on (or injured and impossible to tell yet).

 

[Frankie Burrows Cap]

95%+ of people on here don’t know the transfer fees let alone the structure of a deal, and many reports in the media or online are being pushed by one party or the other.

However, it’s also naive to suggest that clubs, agents and players don’t know details of other transfers. Like most businesses, if you’re working in it you can make a pretty good educated guess on the majority of transfers/salaries without actually having been sat in the room.

 

[Cinio Dydd Sul]

But you don’t know the transfer fees?

I haven’t ignored it, I just told you Benson was a poor one. The rest are either back ups, contributing to making us a mid table championship side or showing potential to kick us on (or injured and impossible to tell yet).

I've told you repeatedly how I and the vast majority of football fans generally form an opinion of what a club has paid for a player. Its a regular topic of conversation with every single football fan I know. There are many ways how this opinion/ guess / assessment is formed.

You're either being deliberately obtuse again or you're a very rare and strange example. But I suspect at some point the mask will slip and you'll be caught out for what you actually are.

Either way, no point continuing to repeat myself.

 

[TruckerJack]

I’d agree with that, those within the game would have a rough idea of transfer + cost to club. Everyone else is just guessing.

I was told by someone who would know that the Gylfi fee was nowhere near reported, it relied on a lot of things that never happened.

Was still a good fee apparently, but nowhere near reported.

 

[TruckerJack]

I've told you repeatedly how I and the vast majority of football fans generally form an opinion of what a club has paid for a player. Its a regular topic of conversation with every single football fan I know. There are many ways how this opinion/ guess / assessment is formed.

You're either being deliberately obtuse again or you're a very rare and strange example. But I suspect at some point the mask will slip and you'll be caught out for what you actually are.

Either way, no point continuing to repeat myself.

You telling me doesn’t mean it’s right.

 

[Flash]

I've told you repeatedly how I and the vast majority of football fans generally form an opinion of what a club has paid for a player. Its a regular topic of conversation with every single football fan I know. There are many ways how this opinion/ guess / assessment is formed.

You're either being deliberately obtuse again or you're a very rare and strange example. But I suspect at some point the mask will slip and you'll be caught out for what you actually are.

Either way, no point continuing to repeat myself.

What do you think he actually is?

 

[TruckerJack]

Someone with a low bullshit tolerance

 

[Flash]

Someone with a low bullshit tolerance

I was thinking alien, they’ve been wildly reported on recently so it must be true.

 

[TruckerJack]

I was thinking alien, they’ve been wildly reported on recently so it must be true.

An alien would be a rubbish signing and the club should be ashamed.