Stop the boats

[exiledclaseboy]

This thread nicely illustrates my original point.

 

[Pacemaker]

I was born and brought up in the Rhondda, in 1840 there were less than 800 people in the entire valley with it being primarily a rural agricultural area with little industry.

Merthyr was already booming with the Ironmasters the Crawshays making millions off the back of the working classes.

By 1910 there were over 120,000 people resident in the Rhondda, almost all of those who had come to the area were single men, many were from rural eras of Wales but most were from around the UK, Europe and the rest of the world. The expansion of the port of Cardiff meant that men came from all over the Empire.

There was a gold rush for S Wales , the coal, iron, steel and copper built the cities and the fortunes of those in power, the damage to the environment and the workers were of no interest to those in power.

There was the odd race riot but that usually involved white Irish labourers rather than people from the far flung reaches of the Empire.

When it suited the rich and the landed gentry it didn't matter where the workers were coming from the Bute, Stuarts or Crawshay families became multi millionaires and were just as happy to abandon the Valleys once coal became either not as profitable or the workers organised and fought for their rights causing their profits to fall.

All those single men eventually settled down, became part of a family and continued to add value to this country, the ongoing campaign by certain parties and their media barons haven’t changed they were the same press barons and politicians who refused access to refugees from Europe in the 1930’s and which we later held our heads in shame at the lack of humanity shown to others.

Maybe showing a bit of empathy for others is not fashionable anymore but there is only one area of politics which has constantly held these views about “foreigners” and that is the fascists.

Both the Daily Mail and Telegraph have always held these views and i find it incredible that the ordinary working class today read these rags and believe everything written within them.

 

[JustJack]

Only if you consider a one per cent increase offsets a 42% decrease.

So no.

Thats not how maths and percentages works though, is it? A 10% decrease overall would not be pushed around the press/socials by Labour supporters

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Thats not how maths and percentages works though, is it? A 10% decrease overall would not be pushed around the press/socials by Labour supporters

I have no idea what point you’re trying to make. Let’s flip it. A 42% decrease has happened in the first four months of this year. This has been nowhere in the press hardly. You can bet your old boots that the one per cent increase you’ve mentioned, should it occur, would be front end centre over all the press. Even though that would still represent a significant drop in small boat arrivals.

 

[jack_lord]

I was born and brought up in the Rhondda, in 1840 there were less than 800 people in the entire valley with it being primarily a rural agricultural area with little industry.

Merthyr was already booming with the Ironmasters the Crawshays making millions off the back of the working classes.

By 1910 there were over 120,000 people resident in the Rhondda, almost all of those who had come to the area were single men, many were from rural eras of Wales but most were from around the UK, Europe and the rest of the world. The expansion of the port of Cardiff meant that men came from all over the Empire.

There was a gold rush for S Wales , the coal, iron, steel and copper built the cities and the fortunes of those in power, the damage to the environment and the workers were of no interest to those in power.

There was the odd race riot but that usually involved white Irish labourers rather than people from the far flung reaches of the Empire.

When it suited the rich and the landed gentry it didn't matter where the workers were coming from the Bute, Stuarts or Crawshay families became multi millionaires and were just as happy to abandon the Valleys once coal became either not as profitable or the workers organised and fought for their rights causing their profits to fall.

All those single men eventually settled down, became part of a family and continued to add value to this country, the ongoing campaign by certain parties and their media barons haven’t changed they were the same press barons and politicians who refused access to refugees from Europe in the 1930’s and which we later held our heads in shame at the lack of humanity shown to others.

Maybe showing a bit of empathy for others is not fashionable anymore but there is only one area of politics which has constantly held these views about “foreigners” and that is the fascists.

Both the Daily Mail and Telegraph have always held these views and i find it incredible that the ordinary working class today read these rags and believe everything written within them.

I enjoyed that.
Reform are the new Tories and are mugging off the new generation of the above using the same media the the Wealthy have always used to "influence".