Summer Transfer Window

[magicdaps10]

Playing devils advocate here a little.

The wage costs of the players that have left us would easily cover the reported O’Brien deal. Grimes and Pederson alone would come close. And we’ve lost Allen, Naughton as well who were on relatively significant sums. Plus Fulton is on a significant sum.

We are a few players short at present of being able to hold our own in this division. We are really in need of another three. One of whom is an experienced midfielder who can provide a really solid foundation for the young players we’ve brought in. In my mind, it’s the position that I would have paid more for as getting the spine right is everything. The creativity which hopefully we’ve added can flow from that.

Same with a centre forward. Although I wouldn’t be in favour of McBurnie at anything like the sums bandied about. His record since leaving us has been patchy to say the least and I think we could do better.

O’Brien, for me, is a loss.

I agree on your view regards paying on a holding midfielder. The position is one where a player makes a big difference for both defence and attack.
I like the look of Inoussa but feel the full fee agreed is a bit more than we needed to pay for a player in that area of the pitch.

Part of me feels that they have gone early on players and in doing so have missed a proper sit down and discuss of a break down of where the squad really needed working on.

 

[magicdaps10]

It is a loss on the field for sure, but a package of £10m+ all in is not something we can or should be doing, unless we fancy a knock on the door from the FFP/PSR police.

Gutted then, but we are right to walk away from this one.

For me, clearly we liked him and we needed to have players on a shortlist who would be a match in style to LOB but financially within our reach......I don't believe that Galbraith falls into that shortlist.

Widell might be that player, I just hope he is because we will miss O'Brien for sure.

 

[bakajack]

200 pages achieved
And still five weeks of the window left to go

Way I see it a striker that can properly play as a focal point and help bring the wingers and attacking midfielder into the game without always going through the same old channels of GK to center half to full back to winger is the main piece of the puzzle left.

Skipping several phases of play and getting Inoussa especially behind the defenders is where we will see the most damage inflicted by him.

 

[magicdaps10]

Interestingly reading a few outlets highlighting our defensive lack of cover. It's quite clearly been an issue for a few weeks and clearly people are getting a bit panicky with the season getting closer.

It's good these niggles have happened now and highlighted the lack of cover. I have been a little concerned about for awhile but I'm glad it's showing up now rather than the end of August onwards.

 

[JackSomething]

Playing devils advocate here a little.

The wage costs of the players that have left us would easily cover the reported O’Brien deal. Grimes and Pederson alone would come close. And we’ve lost Allen, Naughton as well who were on relatively significant sums. Plus Fulton is on a significant sum.

We are a few players short at present of being able to hold our own in this division. We are really in need of another three. One of whom is an experienced midfielder who can provide a really solid foundation for the young players we’ve brought in. In my mind, it’s the position that I would have paid more for as getting the spine right is everything. The creativity which hopefully we’ve added can flow from that.

Same with a centre forward. Although I wouldn’t be in favour of McBurnie at anything like the sums bandied about. His record since leaving us has been patchy to say the least and I think we could do better.

O’Brien, for me, is a loss.

I completely agree that he represents a significant on-field loss compared to the squad which finished last season. Obviously other players have left, but I feel like O'Brien is the most significant. I guess now we'll see how much of the great end of season run was down to his presence.

I do also feel we need a holding midfielder to come in to fill that role, but no idea who that will be. I imagine it will be someone significantly cheaper than O'Brien.

I get what you're saying with the savings we've made with some well-paid players leaving, but we've been haemorrhaging money for multiple seasons now, partly because of those ill-advised contracts. Spending a lot of those savings on one player seems like a bad idea to me, no matter how good that player is.

 

[magicdaps10]

O'Brien to Wrexham official. Must be honest and say I never saw this coming, superb signing for them.

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

200 pages achieved
And still five weeks of the window left to go

Way I see it a striker that can properly play as a focal point and help bring the wingers and attacking midfielder into the game without always going through the same old channels of GK to center half to full back to winger is the main piece of the puzzle left.

Skipping several phases of play and getting Inoussa especially behind the defenders is where we will see the most damage inflicted by him.

Remember how Laudrup liked to set up and go very quickly through the middle? His utilization of Routledge in the number 10 role was both genius and devastating. Maybe we should, especially with Widdell and Galbraith’s ball carrying ability do exactly the same.

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

O'Brien to Wrexham official. Must be honest and say I never saw this coming, superb signing for them.

Hopefully we can find another Ferrie Bodde type on the continent. A bit of class and some grit

 

[jack_lord]

Seems like he has signed for Wrexham

Forest have confirmed he has signed for Wrexham. Forest will be over the moon with that transfer business and it is all Swansea's fault

 

[NWJack]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1948412999297069305

 

[magicdaps10]

O'Brien to Wrexham official. Must be honest and say I never saw this coming, superb signing for them.

Would be superb to find a player who has half Bodde's ability.

 

[PSumbler]

Good write up and highlighting the clear areas that need strengthening.
Just to add, Brandon Fleming joined Derry in the last week or so.

Well I missed that didn’t I ah well

 

[crazedbison]

Playing devils advocate here a little.

The wage costs of the players that have left us would easily cover the reported O’Brien deal. Grimes and Pederson alone would come close. And we’ve lost Allen, Naughton as well who were on relatively significant sums. Plus Fulton is on a significant sum.

We are a few players short at present of being able to hold our own in this division. We are really in need of another three. One of whom is an experienced midfielder who can provide a really solid foundation for the young players we’ve brought in. In my mind, it’s the position that I would have paid more for as getting the spine right is everything. The creativity which hopefully we’ve added can flow from that.

Same with a centre forward. Although I wouldn’t be in favour of McBurnie at anything like the sums bandied about. His record since leaving us has been patchy to say the least and I think we could do better.

O’Brien, for me, is a loss.

While I agree with most everything you've said, I do feel that if we're to stump up the cash we would be better off spending elsewhere, despite how impactful LOB was during his brief spell here.

With a salary of that size and given his age, he would most certainly not be an asset for us to sell on later. So, if things went well for the duration of the contract, great for us. If they didn't and he got injured or lost his mojo, we'd be stuck. I just don't see anyone else taking him for that wage at his age (or inevitably, older). He's obviously just not an investment.

The one bit that's already been somewhat clear is that he would be little more than a squad player in the division above us, so he wouldn't exactly help us in that regard, were we to get promoted.

And, to top it off, I personally didn't really see him as a strong holding midfielder. Maybe I'm crazy (likely) but he looked better going forward than he did in defensive cover, despite his relentless workrate. So, I guess I see him as a box-to-box at most, defensively. So, while we have Franco as one more defensively minded MF, I'd love to see another come in more for that role. Well, that and an out and out 9.

So, all that is to say, if we're going to go "all in" with £10m, I'd rather see us get someone that's a bit of an investment and/or in the 9 or CDM roles.

 

[magicdaps10]

While I agree with most everything you've said, I do feel that if we're to stump up the cash we would be better off spending elsewhere, despite how impactful LOB was during his brief spell here.

With a salary of that size and given his age, he would most certainly not be an asset for us to sell on later. So, if things went well for the duration of the contract, great for us. If they didn't and he got injured or lost his mojo, we'd be stuck. I just don't see anyone else taking him for that wage at his age (or inevitably, older). He's obviously just not an investment.

The one bit that's already been somewhat clear is that he would be little more than a squad player in the division above us, so he wouldn't exactly help us in that regard, were we to get promoted.

And, to top it off, I personally didn't really see him as a strong holding midfielder. Maybe I'm crazy (likely) but he looked better going forward than he did in defensive cover, despite his relentless workrate. So, I guess I see him as a box-to-box at most, defensively. So, while we have Franco as one more defensively minded MF, I'd love to see another come in more for that role. Well, that and an out and out 9.

So, all that is to say, if we're going to go "all in" with £10m, I'd rather see us get someone that's a bit of an investment and/or in the 9 or CDM roles.

You would only have to see his involvement in Oxfords 3rd goal against us in the final game of the season to see he isn't a holding midfielder....or one who is comfortable on the ball.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

It is a loss on the field for sure, but a package of £10m+ all in is not something we can or should be doing, unless we fancy a knock on the door from the FFP/PSR police.

Gutted then, but we are right to walk away from this one.

Not convinced we are to be honest. I think it may well be something we come to regret.

If the rumoured pay is correct, as I said, it’s more than made up by Grimes, Allen, Pederson, Naughton. And I mean way more than made up.

And people who’ve been in this forum for a while will know that I am the last poster who thinks we should spend more than we can.