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Coronavirus- new spike coming?

Cardiffjack said:
Scotia said:
Park the gullibility - go and find out for yourself. I have.

Have you really 😂 talk about being gullible 😁

I'm being deadly serious. You've lapped up right wing propaganda because you like the narrative. Go and take a look at the original documents for yourself.
 
I am not a sceptic in anyway but when you go onto the BMJ, Fact-checking sites, WHO etc everything that DGT has posted is blown out of the water.

Neil Ferguson is criticised for his software but his science all adds up, unless you misquote it of course.
 
Professor said:
jack123 said:
I don't mean this in a bad way or trying to be funny, but some of the people who you say are spreading disinformation and lies, have similar credentials to yourself, or a lot more..

For me these people who oppose what has been reported by the bbc and what the government say, make me a feel a lot better, I still don't put people at risk, I wear a mask and so on.

I would say, don't blame it all on all the deniers, I bet the majority are more sensible than the ones who clapped for the nhs, or put on their Facebook profile pic stay the Fu** home. They may talk a good game, but that's about it.

But what you don’t see, unless on the inside, is these views are an extreme minority and the vast majority of scientists are extremely pissed off with charlatans like Sikora, Cummins and Yeadon who seem convincing,
Speak well but know FA about infectious disease and in each case have ulterior motives to make money. Henneghan and Gupta are a disgrace, taking right-wing lobby group money and PR. Henneghan has limited expertise in infection. Essentially he is a primary care specialist/GP with some expertise in evidence-based medicine around cardiology. Gupta has been proven, like Tegnell the Swedish state epidemiologist,to have got things badly wrong. Mainly around a lack of understanding of immunology. Although they raised an interesting approach, the whole idea of herd immunity through natural infection was considered extreme but bit Boris and Dom enough to have cost perhaps 25,000 lives. Anyway, we are still nowhere near herd immunity.

I am far from an expert in coronaviruses, but know more than most.
Have examined PhDs on them and written enough in book chapters and taught about them for two decades to know shit from chocolate. In fact you could easily criticise the BBC for giving a platform to these self-proclaimed experts. I wouldn’t appear on media as an expert unless I knew enough to be sure I was not spreading crap. Sadly, liars and charlatans have had a platform for the last nine months. When I say a majority,
I mean about 90%


Thank you, I'm not going to agree or disagree with what you say.

The only people I follow above are Yeadon, and Cummins, I do find Yeadon a bit boring recently, I mainly look at the ones who put up graphs and statistics.

They may be doing damage, but honest if it wasn't for the likes of reading an alternative calming element, I'd hate to think what state, I would be in now, I think the mainstream media have a lot to answer for.
 
Pacemaker said:
I am not a sceptic in anyway but when you go onto the BMJ, Fact-checking sites, WHO etc everything that DGT has posted is blown out of the water.

Neil Ferguson is criticised for his software but his science all adds up, unless you misquote it of course.

And take it completely out of context.

There was a claim that he had said 50,000 people would die from foot and mouth disease. Which is an animal disease, of course he never said such a thing. Whoever used that quote obviously meant BSE, but it went viral none the less.
 
Scotia said:
Pacemaker said:
I am not a sceptic in anyway but when you go onto the BMJ, Fact-checking sites, WHO etc everything that DGT has posted is blown out of the water.

Neil Ferguson is criticised for his software but his science all adds up, unless you misquote it of course.

And take it completely out of context.

There was a claim that he had said 50,000 people would die from foot and mouth disease. Which is an animal disease, of course he never said such a thing. Whoever used that quote obviously meant BSE, but it went viral none the less.

Geoff from Ystalyfera probably posted a meme about it, then all the mouth breathers started liking and sharing it. That's how these things go.
 
Pacemaker said:
I am not a sceptic in anyway but when you go onto the BMJ, Fact-checking sites, WHO etc everything that DGT has posted is blown out of the water.

Neil Ferguson is criticised for his software but his science all adds up, unless you misquote it of course.
I wish more people did this before freaking out over stuff that's clearly made up

If you're on twitter, there are quite a few fact checking accounts - hoaxeye, JaneLytv, MariannaSpring being a few.
 
I don’t know if it’s a data lag due to the holidays but cases in Wales do seem to be dropping. Down to 1800 today. Maybe the lockdown is doing what it’s designed to do. Imagine that.
 
Nah. I heard my neighbour caught covid yesterday so lockdowns definitely don't work.
 
exiledclaseboy said:
I don’t know if it’s a data lag due to the holidays but cases in Wales do seem to be dropping. Down to 1800 today. Maybe the lockdown is doing what it’s designed to do. Imagine that.


Imagine nothing!! A quick glance at todays data, and you can see the tests carried out, have drastically dropped to previous times when cases were high.

Let's face it the more they test, the more cases they find..

A rough estimate people tested based on todays positive cases is down about 8 thousand tests, from previous weeks.
 
jack123 said:
exiledclaseboy said:
I don’t know if it’s a data lag due to the holidays but cases in Wales do seem to be dropping. Down to 1800 today. Maybe the lockdown is doing what it’s designed to do. Imagine that.


Imagine nothing!! A quick glance at todays data, and you can see the tests carried out, have drastically dropped to previous times when cases were high.

Let's face it the more they test, the more cases they find..

A rough estimate people tested based on todays positive cases is down about 8 thousand tests, from previous weeks.

The proportion of positive tests has dropped too though. Lockdown is working.

There weren't as many tests yesterday as the recent past, but still far more than a few weeks ago.
 
jack123 said:
exiledclaseboy said:
I don’t know if it’s a data lag due to the holidays but cases in Wales do seem to be dropping. Down to 1800 today. Maybe the lockdown is doing what it’s designed to do. Imagine that.


Imagine nothing!! A quick glance at todays data, and you can see the tests carried out, have drastically dropped to previous times when cases were high.

Let's face it the more they test, the more cases they find..

A rough estimate people tested based on todays positive cases is down about 8 thousand tests, from previous weeks.

I guess a lot of people didn’t want to get tested over Christmas and get told to isolate, I expect figures to shoot up next week both in tests and positive results
 
This had crossed my mind as a concern. Seems that it is. But the British government seem to be ignoring it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/health/coronavirus-vaccines-britain.html

In short, when you go in for your jab, find out what type it is.
 
Squarebear said:
This had crossed my mind as a concern. Seems that it is. But the British government seem to be ignoring it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/health/coronavirus-vaccines-britain.html

In short, when you go in for your jab, find out what type it is.

What bit concerns you?
 
Neath_Jack said:
Squarebear said:
This had crossed my mind as a concern. Seems that it is. But the British government seem to be ignoring it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/health/coronavirus-vaccines-britain.html

In short, when you go in for your jab, find out what type it is.

What bit concerns you?

Head of Immunisation at Public Health England, Dr Mary Ramsay has just said,

"We do not recommend mixing the Covid 19 vaccines" - adding - "If your first dose is the Pfizer vaccine, you should not be given the Astrazenica vaccine for your 2nd dose, and vice versa "
 

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