Cardiffjack
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Scotia said:Cardiffjack said:Are you suggesting they are fake ?
Park the gullibility - go and find out for yourself. I have.
Have you really


Scotia said:Cardiffjack said:Are you suggesting they are fake ?
Park the gullibility - go and find out for yourself. I have.
Cardiffjack said:Scotia said:Park the gullibility - go and find out for yourself. I have.
Have you reallytalk about being gullible
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Professor said:jack123 said:I don't mean this in a bad way or trying to be funny, but some of the people who you say are spreading disinformation and lies, have similar credentials to yourself, or a lot more..
For me these people who oppose what has been reported by the bbc and what the government say, make me a feel a lot better, I still don't put people at risk, I wear a mask and so on.
I would say, don't blame it all on all the deniers, I bet the majority are more sensible than the ones who clapped for the nhs, or put on their Facebook profile pic stay the Fu** home. They may talk a good game, but that's about it.
But what you don’t see, unless on the inside, is these views are an extreme minority and the vast majority of scientists are extremely pissed off with charlatans like Sikora, Cummins and Yeadon who seem convincing,
Speak well but know FA about infectious disease and in each case have ulterior motives to make money. Henneghan and Gupta are a disgrace, taking right-wing lobby group money and PR. Henneghan has limited expertise in infection. Essentially he is a primary care specialist/GP with some expertise in evidence-based medicine around cardiology. Gupta has been proven, like Tegnell the Swedish state epidemiologist,to have got things badly wrong. Mainly around a lack of understanding of immunology. Although they raised an interesting approach, the whole idea of herd immunity through natural infection was considered extreme but bit Boris and Dom enough to have cost perhaps 25,000 lives. Anyway, we are still nowhere near herd immunity.
I am far from an expert in coronaviruses, but know more than most.
Have examined PhDs on them and written enough in book chapters and taught about them for two decades to know shit from chocolate. In fact you could easily criticise the BBC for giving a platform to these self-proclaimed experts. I wouldn’t appear on media as an expert unless I knew enough to be sure I was not spreading crap. Sadly, liars and charlatans have had a platform for the last nine months. When I say a majority,
I mean about 90%
Pacemaker said:I am not a sceptic in anyway but when you go onto the BMJ, Fact-checking sites, WHO etc everything that DGT has posted is blown out of the water.
Neil Ferguson is criticised for his software but his science all adds up, unless you misquote it of course.
Scotia said:Pacemaker said:I am not a sceptic in anyway but when you go onto the BMJ, Fact-checking sites, WHO etc everything that DGT has posted is blown out of the water.
Neil Ferguson is criticised for his software but his science all adds up, unless you misquote it of course.
And take it completely out of context.
There was a claim that he had said 50,000 people would die from foot and mouth disease. Which is an animal disease, of course he never said such a thing. Whoever used that quote obviously meant BSE, but it went viral none the less.
I wish more people did this before freaking out over stuff that's clearly made upPacemaker said:I am not a sceptic in anyway but when you go onto the BMJ, Fact-checking sites, WHO etc everything that DGT has posted is blown out of the water.
Neil Ferguson is criticised for his software but his science all adds up, unless you misquote it of course.
exiledclaseboy said:I don’t know if it’s a data lag due to the holidays but cases in Wales do seem to be dropping. Down to 1800 today. Maybe the lockdown is doing what it’s designed to do. Imagine that.
jack123 said:exiledclaseboy said:I don’t know if it’s a data lag due to the holidays but cases in Wales do seem to be dropping. Down to 1800 today. Maybe the lockdown is doing what it’s designed to do. Imagine that.
Imagine nothing!! A quick glance at todays data, and you can see the tests carried out, have drastically dropped to previous times when cases were high.
Let's face it the more they test, the more cases they find..
A rough estimate people tested based on todays positive cases is down about 8 thousand tests, from previous weeks.
jack123 said:exiledclaseboy said:I don’t know if it’s a data lag due to the holidays but cases in Wales do seem to be dropping. Down to 1800 today. Maybe the lockdown is doing what it’s designed to do. Imagine that.
Imagine nothing!! A quick glance at todays data, and you can see the tests carried out, have drastically dropped to previous times when cases were high.
Let's face it the more they test, the more cases they find..
A rough estimate people tested based on todays positive cases is down about 8 thousand tests, from previous weeks.
Squarebear said:This had crossed my mind as a concern. Seems that it is. But the British government seem to be ignoring it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/health/coronavirus-vaccines-britain.html
In short, when you go in for your jab, find out what type it is.
Neath_Jack said:Squarebear said:This had crossed my mind as a concern. Seems that it is. But the British government seem to be ignoring it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/health/coronavirus-vaccines-britain.html
In short, when you go in for your jab, find out what type it is.
What bit concerns you?