Mr Martin speaketh

[Swanjaxs]

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[Itchysphincter]

I think you can acredit that to the ball going over their heads for the majority of games

This myth....I sometimes wonder if peole actually watched games or just relied on the views of certain posters. I am not saying there werent games were sometimes the ball pinged back and fore....mostly when Bennet was playing and then Cooper dropped him.#

I have posted highlights several times but for a narrative that says our style was hoofball these few games dont demonsrate that and there are loads more examples...I am sure this squad will not need long to adapt to Martins style of play...especially if he is not under any "pressure" to get us promoted this season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-_GtUAHcHc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgkqtuHkJoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNQbW2JGgJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2noQWY3wfYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq3JqMWvObg
Lots of examples of Possesion passing football with moves starting from the back..yet we only ever played hoofball and sat back never taking the game to to the opposition.

They are highlights for a reason, and few and far between. There were times when the club struggled to make an edit of some 45's and in the end didn't bother at all. Often highlights consisted of us attempting 'a' pass, and usually not succeeding. We were a crap side under Cooper, and no amount of highlights reels will change what any self-respecting Swans fan already knows, no point pretending otherwise.

 

[Itchysphincter]

I said majority but ok I'll elaborate
When we held a 1-0 lead or felt the opposition was stronger than us, our midfield was always bypassed to shore up at the back
We had less possession than our opponents in 27 matches last season, sometimes going as low as mid 30s poessession wise

Im not saying Cooper wasnt tactically astute, but he never played the way we wanted and we very rarely dominated games possession wise, to dominate possession is to win the midfield battle which we never did as we always lobbed it up to Ayew to hold up or passed it to the wing backs to cross constantly

Maybe we didnt have the strength in midfield to do so...but what is possesion without results? Potters Brighton has lots of possesion but where did they finish?
Football is about results..I still say Cooper was given a remit to get us back up...given it took Thomas Frank 2 seasons to get to the playoffs and then 3 seasons to get promoted with several years more experience than Cooper he did ok to get us to the play offs twice and improving our league position and when you look at the football it wasnt all defensive...yes we may not have had high possesion stats but we got results and finished 4th in the table...where did those with more possesion end up?


Any way he is now history we have a new man at the helm ..I just get wound up when people talk about the defensive hoofball when it wasnt the case!

Martin should have no excuse to get a tune oout of this squad as they have shown they canplay as he wants

It was worse than defensive hoofball. It was cowardly, clueless, hit and hope. The manager failed the players he had at his disposal.

 

[JackBaston]

This myth....I sometimes wonder if peole actually watched games or just relied on the views of certain posters. I am not saying there werent games were sometimes the ball pinged back and fore....mostly when Bennet was playing and then Cooper dropped him.#

I have posted highlights several times but for a narrative that says our style was hoofball these few games dont demonsrate that and there are loads more examples...I am sure this squad will not need long to adapt to Martins style of play...especially if he is not under any "pressure" to get us promoted this season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-_GtUAHcHc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgkqtuHkJoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNQbW2JGgJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2noQWY3wfYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq3JqMWvObg
Lots of examples of Possesion passing football with moves starting from the back..yet we only ever played hoofball and sat back never taking the game to to the opposition.

They are highlights for a reason, and few and far between. There were times when the club struggled to make an edit of some 45's and in the end didn't bother at all. Often highlights consisted of us attempting 'a' pass, and usually not succeeding. We were a crap side under Cooper, and no amount of highlights reels will change what any self-respecting Swans fan already knows, no point pretending otherwise.

No no we played expansive free flowing football with 36% possession :lol:

 

[ARQS]

No no we played expansive free flowing football with 36% possession :lol:

I don't think we played 'hoofball' as such but anyone who says we played good attacking football under Cooper obviously didn't watch us.

 

[Skippyjack]

No no we played expansive free flowing football with 36% possession :lol:

I don't think we played 'hoofball' as such but anyone who says we played good attacking football under Cooper obviously didn't watch us.

It was very negative stuff, football that the likes of Pulis, Allardyce, McCarthy would be proud of

 

[Vetchonian]

I don't think we played 'hoofball' as such but anyone who says we played good attacking football under Cooper obviously didn't watch us.

It was very negative stuff, football that the likes of Pulis, Allardyce, McCarthy would be proud of

you and itchy need to rethink...these are the highlights of us at Stoke do we look like a Pullis team.
the Stoke goal comes from us playing the ball out from the back...on the floor...not hoofing it as a result Geuhi gives the ball away....our equaliser comes from a move starting with Woodnan with
h the vall on the deck with some interpassing...we dont look a side set up and told to play direct and hoof it away....academic now as Cooper has gone...and I'm not saying the football was always a la Rodgers and Laudrup but it certainly wasn't as some paint it
https://www.google.com/search?q=stoke+v+swansea&oq=stokev+swanses&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i13j0i13i30l2j0i22i30.10662j0j7&client=ms-android-samsung-gj-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#

 

[Nocountryforoldjack]

It was very negative stuff, football that the likes of Pulis, Allardyce, McCarthy would be proud of

you and itchy need to rethink...these are the highlights of us at Stoke do we look like a Pullis team.
the Stoke goal comes from us playing the ball out from the back...on the floor...not hoofing it as a result Geuhi gives the ball away....our equaliser comes from a move starting with Woodnan with
h the vall on the deck with some interpassing...we dont look a side set up and told to play direct and hoof it away....academic now as Cooper has gone...and I'm not saying the football was always a la Rodgers and Laudrup but it certainly wasn't as some paint it
https://www.google.com/search?q=stoke+v+swansea&oq=stokev+swanses&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i13j0i13i30l2j0i22i30.10662j0j7&client=ms-android-samsung-gj-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#

The way he set us up to play at Wembley was enough to condemn him to eternal l hell as far as I'm concerned.... It was very embarrassed to watch that display and it summed him up in a nut shell.

 

[K23]

I think there were a few times when we played some really good football when the players and more likely, the manager, didn't seem under any pressure. As soon as we got ourselves into a position where some level of success looked possible, everything became cagey & cautious and the type of football suffered. The final game against Brentford was the final damning example.

 

[Longlostjack]

I think there were a few times when we played some really good football when the players and more likely, the manager, didn't seem under any pressure. As soon as we got ourselves into a position where some level of success looked possible, everything became cagey & cautious and the type of football suffered. The final game against Brentford was the final damning example.

That was the odd bit. His claim to fame was being a winner in a tournament. We get to the play-off final and then we didn’t show up.

 

[Swansea93]

I think there were a few times when we played some really good football when the players and more likely, the manager, didn't seem under any pressure. As soon as we got ourselves into a position where some level of success looked possible, everything became cagey & cautious and the type of football suffered. The final game against Brentford was the final damning example.

Reminded me of Carvalhal played good stuff and when it looked like he might keep us up he shat himself and we went awful.

 

[Skippyjack]

It was very negative stuff, football that the likes of Pulis, Allardyce, McCarthy would be proud of

you and itchy need to rethink...these are the highlights of us at Stoke do we look like a Pullis team.
the Stoke goal comes from us playing the ball out from the back...on the floor...not hoofing it as a result Geuhi gives the ball away....our equaliser comes from a move starting with Woodnan with
h the vall on the deck with some interpassing...we dont look a side set up and told to play direct and hoof it away....academic now as Cooper has gone...and I'm not saying the football was always a la Rodgers and Laudrup but it certainly wasn't as some paint it
https://www.google.com/search?q=stoke+v+swansea&oq=stokev+swanses&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i13j0i13i30l2j0i22i30.10662j0j7&client=ms-android-samsung-gj-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#

The first 23 games of the season we played decent in about 7 or 8 of them, the next 23 he set us up to not concede and it got worse, but you're blinded by a few seconds highlights, instead of the real motive