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Musk v Farage

If you like people who malign Starmer and Jess Phillips as rape apologists, when the reality is there are very few people in Parliament who have done more to get victims justice, then yes, you are a reprehensible person.

It’s not about “aligning” though is it.

That’s picking football teams. I can respect Elon Musk as an incredible entrepreneur, an absolute genius in that field.

I can also think his business interests can be destructive at the same time. Which is something I’m more sympathetic to.

I can think Jeremy Corbyn is wrong on pretty much everything but I can respect the man has his viewpoints.

Personally just like in another thread more on immigration, I think you can challenge people and debate without just saying they’re a bloody awful person for following a particular viewpoint.

This is why Trump and populism wins. People are not willing to listen to the other side and that creates silos and people go down rabbit holes as result.

My word I’ve been guilty of this in the past. I am not innocent in the slightest, but I’m trying to be better.

If you think immigration is wonderful and have swallowed that line then you’re falling into the same trap. It just isn’t in totality but yes it has positive impacts. Does it have negative impacts? 110%. That’s one issue.

We need to start respecting another point of view. It doesn’t make someone evil. Brexit frustrates me because I’d love to understand why that has any benefits but I get the anger of why people used that vote for “change” but I think it was probably the most misdirected attempt in modern history.

If someone *directly* agrees with something that is overwhelmingly offensive then that’s different but still should be challenged imo. Populism is running rife precisely because of this type of discourse.

That’s my thoughts anyway feel free to call me a cunt if you like.
 
What is wrong with you Neathjack?

This is precisely why you’re the only one on the forum who really gets under my skin.

You just don’t respect another view. Jack123 is entitled to his views.

I personally do not like Elon Musk or what he stands for but that doesn’t mean someone who might be favourable is an awful person.

You’re like a child who just wants to live in your own echo chamber. You are the reason that left lose time and again.

You put yourself out as a forum tough guy but you’re nothing like it are you? Someone who can’t handle a different view. Tired of your crap and your little clique should call you out but they won’t.

Grow up you silly old fart.
Great post. 😂
 
It’s not about “aligning” though is it.

That’s picking football teams. I can respect Elon Musk as an incredible entrepreneur, an absolute genius in that field.

I can also think his business interests can be destructive at the same time. Which is something I’m more sympathetic to.

I can think Jeremy Corbyn is wrong on pretty much everything but I can respect the man has his viewpoints.

Personally just like in another thread more on immigration, I think you can challenge people and debate without just saying they’re a bloody awful person for following a particular viewpoint.

This is why Trump and populism wins. People are not willing to listen to the other side and that creates silos and people go down rabbit holes as result.

My word I’ve been guilty of this in the past. I am not innocent in the slightest, but I’m trying to be better.

If you think immigration is wonderful and have swallowed that line then you’re falling into the same trap. It just isn’t in totality but yes it has positive impacts. Does it have negative impacts? 110%. That’s one issue.

We need to start respecting another point of view. It doesn’t make someone evil. Brexit frustrates me because I’d love to understand why that has any benefits but I get the anger of why people used that vote for “change” but I think it was probably the most misdirected attempt in modern history.

If someone *directly* agrees with something that is overwhelmingly offensive then that’s different but still should be challenged imo. Populism is running rife precisely because of this type of discourse.

That’s my thoughts anyway feel free to call me a cunt if you like.
I get where you are coming from, I don't believe people are evil because they have different viewpoints on things like immigration, btw my own viewpoint on that is closer to Farage's than Starmer's. I respect genuine debate, but I just cannot get behind people who knowingly spread lies just to get one over their opponent, as Musk has done in Starmer's case and I take a similar view to anyone who supports him just because he is on their side. Doing this poisons any discourse and makes progress from genuine debate impossible.
 
Musk's view that Jess Phillips should be in jail doesn't deserve respect. His view that Yaxley Lennon should be released and should lead Reform doesn't deserve respect.
Musk is dangerous because of his wealth and power as the owner of X. Unfortunately there are plenty of people out there who are hard of thinking and will believe everything he says.
 
I can’t see how you deduce me as fan boy of Elons, just for observing a post by Elon, and that I think he’s not going to give up, anytime soon. I didn’t agree or disagree with what he’s doing.
You're just spreading complete bullshit mun...
 
I think that’s just wishful thinking by some people. I’ll make a bold statement here, and I think when Trump gets in, he will make life a living hell, for Starmer and also Labour, let’s face it, before the election, labour openly slagged Trump off, does anyone think he’s going to let them get away with that? They also sent labour members to the USA campaigning for Biden. I’ll make a bold prediction here, and you can bookmark this, because I have a high certainty this will happen. Once Trump is inaugurated him and Elon will go to town on Labour.
Whatever...Trump and Musk are complete right wing bellends....
 
Musk's view that Jess Phillips should be in jail doesn't deserve respect. His view that Yaxley Lennon should be released and should lead Reform doesn't deserve respect.
Musk is dangerous because of his wealth and power as the owner of X. Unfortunately there are plenty of people out there who are hard of thinking and will believe everything he says.
It’s like a cult following he has.
 
It’s not about “aligning” though is it.

That’s picking football teams. I can respect Elon Musk as an incredible entrepreneur, an absolute genius in that field.

I can also think his business interests can be destructive at the same time. Which is something I’m more sympathetic to.

I can think Jeremy Corbyn is wrong on pretty much everything but I can respect the man has his viewpoints.

Personally just like in another thread more on immigration, I think you can challenge people and debate without just saying they’re a bloody awful person for following a particular viewpoint.

This is why Trump and populism wins. People are not willing to listen to the other side and that creates silos and people go down rabbit holes as result.

My word I’ve been guilty of this in the past. I am not innocent in the slightest, but I’m trying to be better.

If you think immigration is wonderful and have swallowed that line then you’re falling into the same trap. It just isn’t in totality but yes it has positive impacts. Does it have

Mate if you're right wing, they think you're an idiot and morally beneath their fat huge heads due to lager consumption.. I remember when they supported Starmer "smashing the gangs" when I had a chat to the head of the CID and Border Force who said 200 terrorists are hosed up in hotels up and down the country, but our politicians who's heads are in the sand are going to Smash Um apparently.. they're already here you raving numpties.. too late, too stupid and about as bright as a solar eclipse these left leaning lager louts
 

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