Playoff Structure Change

[Smurph]

I thought the essence of sport was to win then being rewarded .
Not being average then going into a playoff
Where is the sense in that .

Life isn't fair.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Views may change the first time an eighth placed team beats a third placed team which finished 25 or more points above them. Especially if that third placed team is Swansea City.

 

[Cooperman]

This scheme is already in place in other European countries. I just did a quick check on Italy Serie B and over the past five seasons no club finishing 7th or 8th was promoted. Only a small sample size, but at least some evidence that the wheat was separated from the chaff.

 

[Smurph]

Views may change the first time an eighth placed team beats a third placed team which finished 25 or more points above them. Especially if that third placed team is Swansea City.

How often does the team which finished third get promoted via the play offs?

 

[exiledclaseboy]

How often does the team which finished third get promoted via the play offs?

No idea.

 

[Smurph]

No idea.

The same principle applies with the new format.

 

[Smurph]

Where do we stop? This could run until we give twenty four teams a chance over a forty six game play off.

There was an example in the National League last year which generated some interest. York finished second with 96 points, but lost a one off game to Oldham, who finished fifth with 73 points. York had won ten more games than Oldham in the regular season. That doesn’t sit well with me.

The national league is bit of an anomaly. The top two teams in that league should get promoted in line with every other division. I agree that finishing second shouldn't mean you end up in a play off system with teams that have finished in the top eight.

Are they suggesting that the teams in second place would now go in to the play offs?

Honestly couldn't see what the fuss is about, if extending the season by an extra two games means more chance of getting promoted, whats's the issue.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Where do we stop? This could run until we give twenty four teams a chance over a forty six game play off.

There was an example in the National League last year which generated some interest. York finished second with 96 points, but lost a one off game to Oldham, who finished fifth with 73 points. York had won ten more games than Oldham in the regular season. That doesn’t sit well with me.

York should have gone up automatically. It’s a daft system there.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Views may change the first time an eighth placed team beats a third placed team which finished 25 or more points above them. Especially if that third placed team is Swansea City.

Unless that 8th placed team was us of course.

 

[Neath_Jack]

This scheme is already in place in other European countries. I just did a quick check on Italy Serie B and over the past five seasons no club finishing 7th or 8th was promoted. Only a small sample size, but at least some evidence that the wheat was separated from the chaff.

Look at Sunderland this season, or us when we got promoted to the Prem. Just because a team finishes outside the top two, doesn’t mean they will be weaker than those top two in the higher division.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Unless that 8th placed team was us of course.

Exactly.

 

[Frankie Burrows Cap]

How often does the team which finished third get promoted via the play offs?

More often than the media would have you think.
*from Chat GPT, so no doubt there'll be the odd error!

 

[Smurph]

More often than the media would have you think.View attachment 7334

That probably just proves that the best team overall goes up via this method,

 

[Professor]

I thought the essence of sport was to win then being rewarded .
Not being average then going into a playoff
Where is the sense in that .

Think that's still pretty common across Europe (including Germany of the 'big' leagues)

Our first ever promotion in the playoffs involved a team from the league above - some of my first Swans memories are those home playoff matches against Rotherham and Torquay then listening to the away legs on the radio.

1988 Football League play-offs - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Absolutely-we beat 4th bottom Rotherham when we went up in '88 under the late Terry Yorath. Was originally third or fourth bottom team and 3rd to 5th or 4th to 6th in the playoffs. Remember Charlton beating Leeds (in a replay) to stay in the old first division.

 

[sit_down_jack]

Not a fan of this. It’s like opening up more Champions League places so it’s no longer actually the champions competing. It’s just another way for them to add games to the schedule and hype up games for more money. Think 6 is stretching it as it is.