Stop expecting perfection from us - top referee

[JustJack]

Define abuse?

In the example you've set out both sets of fans would leave the stadium satisfied with the ref's handling of the game. What is there to get abusive about.

We've lost plenty of games without having a go at the referee due to the defeat.

I dont believe that last statement, at all.

 

[Smurph]

I dont believe that last statement, at all.

It is a fact. and it's up to you if you believe it or not.

This happens up and down the country every week, just like it does when fans leave disgruntled and quite rightly so due to an incompetent performance from the officials.

 

[JustJack]

It is a fact. and it's up to you if you believe it or not.

This happens up and down the country every week, just like it does when fans leave disgruntled and quite rightly so due to an incompetent performance from the officials.

How is that a fact, unless you subscribe to the Donald Trump definition

What percentage would you give to fans leaving a game completely happy with an official, despite losing?

 

[Swanjaxs]

It is a fact. and it's up to you if you believe it or not.

This happens up and down the country every week, just like it does when fans leave disgruntled and quite rightly so due to an incompetent performance from the officials.

If you are looking to get the last word over just jack then this thread will make Phil enough money for a villa in Spain. Just saying like...

 

[Smurph]

If you are looking to get the last word over just jack then this thread will make Phil enough money for a villa in Spain. Just saying like...

That's the plan, I'm currently in negations with a split of the profits, I'll deal you in

 

[Swanjaxs]

That's the plan, I'm currently in negations with a split of the profits, I'll deal you in

We could get a villa next to Peggy? He lives in Spain apparently...

 

[Smurph]

How is that a fact, unless you subscribe to the Donald Trump definition

What percentage would you give to fans leaving a game completely happy with an official, despite losing?

It’s an observation based on the fact that the majority of games don’t end with referees being the main talking point.

You’re being overly literal here, maybe you wait outside the ground at the next home game (if you actually attend games) with a clipboard and survey fans at the exits,

If fans were genuinely unhappy most of the time, you’d hear about it week in, week out and you don’t. That suggests the majority are leaving satisfied, even if they’ve lost.

The first post on this thread was not about chasing perfection, it was getting the basics correct 100% of the time.

 

[Smurph]

We could get a villa next to Peggy? He lives in Spain apparently...

So I've heard

I'm sure he'd love you there, me not so much.

I'd end up shouting at him for parking in parent and children spaces

 

[Swanjaxs]

So I've heard

I'm sure he'd love you there, me not so much.

I'd end up shouting at him for parking in parent and children spaces

He's a lovely fella, he'd probably throw a few euros my way for tending to his garden, he's got a swimming pool and everything mind!
Anyway, back on topic.

The Referee's A Wanker...

 

[JustJack]

It’s an observation based on the fact that the majority of games don’t end with referees being the main talking point.

You’re being overly literal here, maybe you wait outside the ground at the next home game (if you actually attend games) with a clipboard and survey fans at the exits,

If fans were genuinely unhappy most of the time, you’d hear about it week in, week out and you don’t. That suggests the majority are leaving satisfied, even if they’ve lost.

The first post on this thread was not about chasing perfection, it was getting the basics correct 100% of the time.

'Its not chasing perfection, its getting it correct 100% of the time'

You couldnt have said it better.

 

[Smurph]

'Its not chasing perfection, its getting it correct 100% of the time'

You couldnt have said it better.

Basics, getting the basics correct, 100% of the time, that's not a difficult task to get your head around for the majority of us.

I'm done with this, can't be continually going over the same thing because you're spoiling for an argument.

 

[BendJack]

So what you're confirming is that despite a perfect game, there will still be reasons to abuse the referee.

So increased competency makes little difference to the overall problem, does it? Because competency of a referee has no impact on the emotional regulation of the individual in the stands, which is the actual problem.

Can you see the conundrum in effect? When you have two competitive teams playing and one loses, then the competence of the referee is inconsequential and makes no difference to the end outcome which is always the same, I.e blame the referee

Call it the 90 minute toddler effect, when fans don't get what they want they look for the easiest source of blame to mask their frustration, mirroring a small child

You're clearly confused, friend. Re-read my post where I said there will always be some who want to vent. This could happen to anyone, retail staff, hairdressers, cleaners... If someone is having bad day since week takes it out on everyone - referees included.

 

[BendJack]

Basics, getting the basics correct, 100% of the time, that's not a difficult task to get your head around for the majority of us.

I'm done with this, can't be continually going over the same thing because you're spoiling for an argument.

I think he's intentionally misconstruing what were saying...

 

[Smurph]

I think he's intentionally misconstruing what were saying...

Absolutely, if you told him water was wet, he'd argue it wasn't.

 

[Niigata Jack]

15k fans putting pressure on the ref doesn't really explain the decisions which go against us week in week out.

Clear cut decisions as well, I wonder if other clubs get the clear cut penalty decisions that we get, sometimes two in a game, over a season the amount of those decisions that go wrongly against us is incredible and no that's no coming from a blinkered fan either.