The Clydach Murders

[Darran]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/dai-morris-clydach-death-family-21469448

 

[sainthelens]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/dai-morris-clydach-death-family-21469448

Longer his death goes 'inconclusive ' the more the conspiracy theorists will question.
Cant compare him to Epstein ( or maybe you can), but was the Morris case about to take another twist??

 

[STID2017]

I don't claim to have any inside knowledge or special insight into these awful events.
Having watched the BBC programme and read the book recently about the Murders, it seems to me that the evidence against Morris was circumstantial at best.
The police IMHO had their man and that was an end to it.
Similar case dramatised on TV recently where the police determined they had their man ( a sexual fantasist but nothing more ).
After years in jail he was released and recieved £750k in damages.
The police sadly aren't infallible

 

[Best_loser]

I don't claim to have any inside knowledge or special insight into these awful events.
Having watched the BBC programme and read the book recently about the Murders, it seems to me that the evidence against Morris was circumstantial at best.
The police IMHO had their man and that was an end to it.
Similar case dramatised on TV recently where the police determined they had their man ( a sexual fantasist but nothing more ).
After years in jail he was released and recieved £750k in damages.
The police sadly aren't infallible

I think he did it, but the evidence wasn't enough that I could say I'm certain he did , lots of murders you can feel certain with DNA , video and witness evidence, in this one it was the fact he didn't have an alibi and the gold chain , people will always argue there were others with a motive , unless any new evidence comes to light it will remain as it is

 

[Wizard1999]

Supporters of Dai 'butcher' Morris mention the Gold chain as if it ment nothing. Anyone with a brain knows he's 100% guilty. His gold chain (which he swore on his children's lives for months wasn't his - but eventually forensics proved that it was) was found on the bedroom floor covered in blood in the place where the biggest struggle took place i.e. Mandy fighting for a her life. Hmmmm now let's think how did it end up there?

For there to be a doubt that he wasn't the killer Butcher Dai had to come up with a new story of how the chain ended up there. For there to be any credibility he knew the timeframe would have to be very short i.e. witnesses would have had more of a chance to prove that he still had the chain coupled with the fact why would he leave a chain he wore 24/7 for any length of time in Mandy's house.

So his new story was that he had sex with Mandy a day before the murders. Hmmmmm talk about unlucky. You have sex with someone, forget your chain and then a day later the whole family gets butchered. Not only that but not one single witness sees a guy covered in tatoos on a 3 hour plus jolly walk past a busy hospital and back or sees him outside on the Friday morning when he was meant to have gone back with Mandy for sex. Think about that - on the morning that he actually decides to get his chain fixed he takes it off puts in his pocket and before he's about to step foot into the jewellers he happens to bump into Mandy Power who then invites him back for sex and noone else in the village sees them. I mean talk about unlucky. Sounds like this chain is more like the 'One ring' in Lord of the Rings. Or his gilfriend when she leaves him in at supposedly 3am in the morning the day of the killings doesn't bother to look at a digital clock when she goes back to bed. Who wouldn't say a word or look at a clock when their boyfriend/girlfriend had just woken you up at some crazy hour to be let in.

You've got to be the unluckyest guy in the world here haven't you that noone can collaborate your story and get you off with being a butcher. Not only that how did the chain magically float from the kitchen counter to the floor of the Grandmother's bedroom where the biggest struggle took place. How unlucky is that ey!

Finally phone records prove that Dai Butcher Morris was in his gilfriend's house and that Mandy Power was in Alison Lewis's house the morning the sex was supposed to have taken place. There's even an eye witness account of Mandy actually getting into Alison Lewis's car that morning!

Now for all those people supporting a child killer try and explain away any of what I have stated, because Butcher Dai is a mass murderer and Satan is dragging him over hot coals in hell.

 

[jack123]

Supporters of Dai 'butcher' Morris mention the Gold chain as if it ment nothing. Anyone with a brain knows he's 100% guilty. His gold chain (which he swore on his children's lives for months wasn't his - but eventually forensics proved that it was) was found on the bedroom floor covered in blood in the place where the biggest struggle took place i.e. Mandy fighting for a her life. Hmmmm now let's think how did it end up there? For there to be a doubt that he wasn't the killer Butcher Dai had to come up with a new story of how the chain ended up there. For there to be any credibility he knew the timeframe would have to be very short i.e. witnesses would have had more of a chance to prove that he still had the chain coupled with the fact why would he leave a chain he wore 24/7 for any length of time in Mandy's house. So his new story was that he had sex with Mandy a day before the murders. Hmmmmm talk about unlucky. You have sex with someone, forget your chain and then a day later the whole family gets butchered. Not only that but not one single witness sees a guy covered in tatoos on a 3 hour plus jolly work passsed a busy hospital and back or sees him outside on the Friday morning when he was meant to have gone back with Mandy for sex. Or his gilfriend when she leaves him in at supposedly 3am in the morning the day of the killings doesn't bother to look at a digital clock when she goes back to bed. Who wouldn't say a word or look at a clock when their boyfriend/girlfriend had just woken you up at some crazy hour to be let in. You've got to be the most unluckyiest guy in the world here haven't you that noone can collaborate your story and get you off with being a butcher. Not only that how did the chain magically float from the kitchen counter to the floor of the Grandmother's bedroom where the biggest struggle took place. How unlucky is that ey! Finally phone records prove that Dai Butcher Morris was in his gilfriend's house and that Mandy Power was in Alison Lewi's house the morning the sex was supposed to have taken place. There's even an eye witness account of Mandy actually getting into Alison Lewi's car that morning! Now for all those people supporting a child killer try and explain away any of what I have stated.

The coppers done it!!! I'm not sure what you said though, I give up after the first line.

 

[Wizard1999]

jack123 your're either his daughter or have an IQ of 3 you child killer supporter

 

[DJack]

jack123 your're either his daughter or have an IQ of 3 you child killer supporter

Doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong (I am certain that he was guilty) but you need paragraphs/spacing for your points! :lol:

 

[Darran]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/funeral-dai-morris-clydach-murders-21579360

 

[Neath_Jack]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/sock-found-clydach-murders-scene-21895944#source=breaking-news

 

[Darran]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/sock-found-clydach-murders-scene-21895944#source=breaking-news

Yeah but what does that prove eh?

 

[sainthelens]

:evil:

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/sock-found-clydach-murders-scene-21895944#source=breaking-news

Yeah but what does that prove eh?

It proves that despite 1 or 2 other police forces looking on, SWP are still directing the traffic so to speak.

 

[dickythorpe]

Oh no case to answer then. It was the sock that done it.

 

[MajorR]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/sock-found-clydach-murders-scene-21895944#source=breaking-news

Yeah but what does that prove eh?

If I am reading this correctly it significantly strengthens the case against him. DNA which could have come from him or a paternal relative was found on a sock which was used during the murders. There’s been lots of speculation including books by people not closely involved, but 2 juries who’ve heard the facts both returned Guilty verdicts.
Let’s hope this will bring closure for people.

 

[MajorR]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/sock-found-clydach-murders-scene-21895944#source=breaking-news

Yeah but what does that prove eh?

If I am reading this correctly it significantly strengthens the case against him. DNA which could have come from him or a paternal relative was found on a sock which was used during the murders. There’s been lots of speculation including books by people not closely involved, but 2 juries who’ve heard the facts both returned Guilty verdicts.
Let’s hope this will bring closure for people.