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Weekend Games Off

Londonlisa2001 said:
exiledclaseboy said:
I think football has made a poor decision to be honest. And out of kilter with most other sports which are going ahead with appropriate tributes, that's what football should have done.

It’s because most other sports can be more certain of decent behaviour.

Imagine Liverpool doing their whole booing bit.

As someone born in Liverpool, from a quick, unscientific survey of Liverpool fans, there's a difference between booing an anthem about God and the institution of the monarchy (and, I'd argue, the class system), and booing a minutes silence for a human being.

As others have said, there'll always be a minority of prats, but, perhaps naively, I think the vast majority of Liverpool fans (and of all clubs) would recognize that difference. If they did play the anthem, I'd think I'd ended up in North Korea and would have no issue with it being booed - one person is not the country. Armbands and a silence would be sufficient.

Ultimately this comes down to football authorities not having faith in working class fans to behave, and running in fear of the Telegraph or Mail. God forbid that the people are allowed - "respectfully" or not - to express how they feel about the monarchy. All this shows is how craven the Football Association is, and how little they care about players or fans, though I shouldn't be surprised at this.
 
Fuzzy Dunlop said:
Londonlisa2001 said:
It’s because most other sports can be more certain of decent behaviour.

Imagine Liverpool doing their whole booing bit.

As someone born in Liverpool, from a quick, unscientific survey of Liverpool fans, there's a difference between booing an anthem about God and the institution of the monarchy (and, I'd argue, the class system), and booing a minutes silence for a human being.

As others have said, there'll always be a minority of prats, but, perhaps naively, I think the vast majority of Liverpool fans (and of all clubs) would recognize that difference. If they did play the anthem, I'd think I'd ended up in North Korea and would have no issue with it being booed - one person is not the country. Armbands and a silence would be sufficient.

Ultimately this comes down to football authorities not having faith in working class fans to behave, and running in fear of the Telegraph or Mail. God forbid that the people are allowed - "respectfully" or not - to express how they feel about the monarchy. All this shows is how craven the Football Association is, and how little they care about players or fans, though I shouldn't be surprised at this.

That first paragraph is exactly it. And why I think the concerns are overblown. The 99% would effectively police the 1% IMO.
 
Londonlisa2001 said:
Nocountryforoldjack said:
Thank you.

Ah the colonial past... Well I don't have to go into that for you do I,I think most of us know the issues there. Change is good maybe her death will be the catalyst for change. For her family on a personal level yes it's terrible but from the past and constitutional level no so much, everything changes and end's and begins.

I just don't get why this country owes her so much we never asked for it, she was always part of the fittings now she's gone, nothing really to see here as far as I'm concerned, I never knew her personally and she never impacted my life in any way apart from the street party in penclawdd 1977 .

I remember the street party in 1977 as well. Killay rather than Penclawdd although I spent a huge amount of my youth in Penclawdd.

We lived on church lane on the blue anchor estate.
 
lidojack said:
We are going to have a minute silence at some point for her, so if that's the reason behind cancelling these games it's only really delaying it.

Take it as an opportunity to broaden your footballing horizons. Plenty of European games on offer over the weekend!

Inter v Torino at 17:15. Haven’t decided who I’m supporting yet though.
 
You'd swear football has been outlawed :roll:

There's more to life than football for god sake, it's a beautiful weekend get out and enjoy your surroundings, go and see a family member you haven't seen for ages.
 
Nocountryforoldjack said:
Londonlisa2001 said:
I remember the street party in 1977 as well. Killay rather than Penclawdd although I spent a huge amount of my youth in Penclawdd.

We lived on church lane on the blue anchor estate.

Ah, the ‘Blew’.

Quite near Tweety then.
 
Uxy said:
Fuzzy Dunlop said:
As someone born in Liverpool, from a quick, unscientific survey of Liverpool fans, there's a difference between booing an anthem about God and the institution of the monarchy (and, I'd argue, the class system), and booing a minutes silence for a human being.

As others have said, there'll always be a minority of prats, but, perhaps naively, I think the vast majority of Liverpool fans (and of all clubs) would recognize that difference. If they did play the anthem, I'd think I'd ended up in North Korea and would have no issue with it being booed - one person is not the country. Armbands and a silence would be sufficient.

Ultimately this comes down to football authorities not having faith in working class fans to behave, and running in fear of the Telegraph or Mail. God forbid that the people are allowed - "respectfully" or not - to express how they feel about the monarchy. All this shows is how craven the Football Association is, and how little they care about players or fans, though I shouldn't be surprised at this.

That first paragraph is exactly it. And why I think the concerns are overblown. The 99% would effectively police the 1% IMO.

Watching the immense solemnity of proceedings at the cricket earlier I just don’t think the football would be able to prevent some morons shouting out. And that’s all we would hear about for months. Particularly if it was a Welsh team.
Anyway it’s just one match. Maybe two. I’d rather not run the risk of being slagged off for years.
 
Strangely, seventy years ago on the death of George VI football went ahead and rugby stopped.

It seems it’s only football that’s stopped this time.
 
Fuzzy Dunlop said:
Londonlisa2001 said:
It’s because most other sports can be more certain of decent behaviour.

Imagine Liverpool doing their whole booing bit.

As someone born in Liverpool, from a quick, unscientific survey of Liverpool fans, there's a difference between booing an anthem about God and the institution of the monarchy (and, I'd argue, the class system), and booing a minutes silence for a human being.

As others have said, there'll always be a minority of prats, but, perhaps naively, I think the vast majority of Liverpool fans (and of all clubs) would recognize that difference. If they did play the anthem, I'd think I'd ended up in North Korea and would have no issue with it being booed - one person is not the country. Armbands and a silence would be sufficient.

Ultimately this comes down to football authorities not having faith in working class fans to behave, and running in fear of the Telegraph or Mail. God forbid that the people are allowed - "respectfully" or not - to express how they feel about the monarchy. All this shows is how craven the Football Association is, and how little they care about players or fans, though I shouldn't be surprised at this.

Totally agree with your first paragraph. A minutes silence for the death of any Human being should be respected, and hopefully our fan base would respect this. However, if they expect us to play God Save the Queen at our ground on Tuesday then I for one will find that quite insulting and make my feelings heard.
 
Londonlisa2001 said:
Uxy said:
That first paragraph is exactly it. And why I think the concerns are overblown. The 99% would effectively police the 1% IMO.

Watching the immense solemnity of proceedings at the cricket earlier I just don’t think the football would be able to prevent some morons shouting out. And that’s all we would hear about for months. Particularly if it was a Welsh team.
Anyway it’s just one match. Maybe two. I’d rather not run the risk of being slagged off for years.

I do wonder if there'll be a minute's silence when there is a resumption. If so, it's just delaying the inevitable. I'm optimistic but you may well be right. Just hope there's no anthem playing as all bets are off then.

Clearly for many it's a very emotive time, so I can disagree but not have an issue with it.

It'll be interesting to see what happens next week. From a purely personal perspective, I can't make either as I'm down your way, so I'm fine with a postponement until after the funeral. ;)
 
Londonlisa2001 said:
Uxy said:
That first paragraph is exactly it. And why I think the concerns are overblown. The 99% would effectively police the 1% IMO.

Watching the immense solemnity of proceedings at the cricket earlier I just don’t think the football would be able to prevent some morons shouting out. And that’s all we would hear about for months. Particularly if it was a Welsh team.
Anyway it’s just one match. Maybe two. I’d rather not run the risk of being slagged off for years.

Ouch.
 
Walking football internationals going ahead today, cos guess what, they're going to have a 2 min silence as a mark of respect, grown adults aye, whatever next

Ridiculous to cancel games this weekend, I couldn't careless if some booed, I'm very anti royalty but would shut my god for a minute out of respect to a woman I never knew other than having a massive partay in the street an eon ago when I was but a mere boy
 
On a side note if we held a minutes silence for every death in the world we would all be mute all our lives.

Shouldn't we celebrate the life of the Queen rather than mourn her death. The west's ideas of death are strange at best.
 
It could have a bad impact on our progress. For the first time in a while I'd have fancied us to win at Brum - the first time I'd have expected a win this season. Obviously, I don't fancy us on Tuesday. Two wins on the bounce would have been priceless in our efforts to stave off relegation.
 

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