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What nutter takes over if Martin goes?

Oh yeah, it might take a while, but I think when the crowd turns, unless he changes his approach (unlikely), it would only end one way. Even when you win a few, the losses are more heavily weighted as all the goodwill has been used up. I said that the end of last season was a massive error by him being so uncaring about winning as that was his honeymoon season and he could have built a stock of goodwill after the Doube. It seems he still thinks it's the same now. Unlike Bradley, he's already had a season, but they certainly won't shunt him unless they really have to. I just can't see him riding out a bad crowd reaction himself personally, but I suppose his options are limited there. If he had any perception he would have feelers out now for another job, as he still has his press profile.
 
I'm not sure his stock is all that high at the moment to be honest. Maybe some hipster League 1 types would, but could you really see a Championship team take him on?

He does seem the sort who might jump if he isn't getting the warm and fuzzies back from the crowd, but when there are £'s on the line it's amazing how often people ride it out to get paid off.
 
Uxy said:
I'm not sure his stock is all that high at the moment to be honest. Maybe some hipster League 1 types would, but could you really see a Championship team take him on?

He does seem the sort who might jump if he isn't getting the warm and fuzzies back from the crowd, but when there are £'s on the line it's amazing how often people ride it out to get paid off.

I would!

Lets just hope, however unlikely, things start improving. The first view of the Grimester crabbing sideways and playing consecutive 5 yard one-twos with Naughts could get an 'interesting' crowd reaction against Millwall I fear. Maybe that's what's needed and the players will then take some responsibility to make something happen. They have been programmed, so I doubt it. Stepford Swans.
 
monmouth said:
Uxy said:
I'm not sure his stock is all that high at the moment to be honest. Maybe some hipster League 1 types would, but could you really see a Championship team take him on?

He does seem the sort who might jump if he isn't getting the warm and fuzzies back from the crowd, but when there are £'s on the line it's amazing how often people ride it out to get paid off.

I would!

Lets just hope, however unlikely, things start improving. The first view of the Grimester crabbing sideways and playing consecutive 5 yard one-twos with Naughts could get an 'interesting' crowd reaction against Millwall I fear. Maybe that's what's needed and the players will then take some responsibility to make something happen. They have been programmed, so I doubt it. Stepford Swans.

I don't think it would matter if he dropped Grimes or Naughton. Whoever comes in will be told to do the same, and deviation will see them dropped.

Stepford is worryingly spot on. Coached within an inch of their lives. Not sure we actually have many mercurial types in the squad now to do anything different. Kind of why I liked Garrick, raw but quick and capable of causing some carnage as he did under Cooper at times.

Just read Cabango's interview about players needing to take responsibility. I think that's going to grate on them before too long, if it hasn't already.
 
I don't see him going any where.

We will pick up enough wins throughout the season to stay up because we have a goalscorer up front and have decent players at this level. The play won't change, slow and rigid. Martin will spout the usual rubbish but 1 game in 8 we might have a good game and play nice football, then back to the usual just like last season.

Unless we keep losing I can't see the owners pulling the plug on him.
 
1 question. Can he keep us up? If the answer is yes then keep. I have no expectations of going up any more. If staying in this league is the priority, and he can keep us up, what will changing manager do?
If, however the motive is more long term, the worse we do the more likely that the owners may become twitchy about the club as a whole. I would say flirting with relegation may expedite the owners decision. At what point do the owners decide to cut ties with the club?
 
Captain_Sham said:
1 question. Can he keep us up? If the answer is yes then keep. I have no expectations of going up any more. If staying in this league is the priority, and he can keep us up, what will changing manager do?
If, however the motive is more long term, the worse we do the more likely that the owners may become twitchy about the club as a whole. I would say flirting with relegation may expedite the owners decision. At what point do the owners decide to cut ties with the club?

I certainly think some peoples expectations are far too high,I wasn’t expecting much before the season started.
 
Uxy said:
He's going nowhere anytime soon. He's their man. That interview when he talks about the direct line should tell you just how secure he is.

Yeah, don’t think so.

He’s toast.
 
Captain_Sham said:
1 question. Can he keep us up? If the answer is yes then keep. I have no expectations of going up any more. If staying in this league is the priority, and he can keep us up, what will changing manager do?
If, however the motive is more long term, the worse we do the more likely that the owners may become twitchy about the club as a whole. I would say flirting with relegation may expedite the owners decision. At what point do the owners decide to cut ties with the club?

The answer to that is no he can't, we've gone into reverse this season so far and it's starting to unravel.
 
I see Gio Savareses name being mentioned on the other board as a replacement manager, apparently doing a good job out in the US.

Any thoughts
 
He's going nowhere. You must be deluded if you think we're going to shell out compo unless we really have to. If we're rock bottom at Chrimbo of course they will consider giving him the old heave ho, but we have to be up shit creek without a paddle before they even consider paying him any compo.
 

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