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Williams out

Didn’t Laudrup do the same thing, used the coaches to drum into the players what needed to happen during that particular game but very rarely say anything pre game or HT?
 
LW may have created a rather large problem for himself if we play shite on Sunday after he returns to the dressing room. Very strange behaviour. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cdxzgdve6y0o
I’d assume that there’s been some serious unrest for this to have happened. Certainly not a positive move, in my humble opinion. Whether it was the players who threw their toys or Williams, smells very off. Could be neither of course.
 
I’d assume that there’s been some serious unrest for this to have happened. Certainly not a positive move, in my humble opinion. Whether it was the players who threw their toys or Williams, smells very off. Could be neither of course.
Probably his comments after the Sunderland game rubbed the players up the wrong way which lead to the shocking performance at Hull.
 
I tend to agree.

On one hand, it's encouraging to see the players, in particular Captain Fantastic, taking responsibility for a change.

On the other hand, as you say, Williams has taken a huge risk and potentially undermined himself by letting the dressing room effectively run itself.

Could be a masterstroke - or could be a huge risk. Hard to tell right now. But we'll find out soon enough I think...
So we didn't need the manager before the game , or at half time. Makes you wonder why he bothered to turn up to the game at all. Now only if Grimes could master the art of fist pumping , we could sack Williams and save a wage.
 
I think this can only be a problem.

If we fail to turn up vs Luton then the fingers will be pointed that Luke actually has a detrimental effect.

It's more that he came out about it after the game. I don't see why he would? Obviously to praise Grimes but this can't be a good thing
 
Ridiculous. He’s now a joke. Totally pointless. I didn’t bother going into the office today and my team performed ten times better than when I’m there. Oh….

He’s redundant. No need for a pay off. Grimes clearly runs the whole shebang.
 
People are just being silly here - that performance yesterday had the Luke Williams stamp all over it.

The style of play was pure Luke Williams - what happens from the coaching team during team talks is minimal compared to the hours on the training ground.

Plenty of managers past and present have done this - we’ve had the kit men and kitchen staff giving team talks in the past … no one was complaining then.

Onwards and upwards!
 
People are just being silly here - that performance yesterday had the Luke Williams stamp all over it.

The style of play was pure Luke Williams - what happens from the coaching team during team talks is minimal compared to the hours on the training ground.

Plenty of managers past and present have done this - we’ve had the kit men and kitchen staff giving team talks in the past … no one was complaining then.

Onwards and upwards!
Excellent post, couldn't agree more! The manager's job isn't to just hand round the oranges and throw the odd football boot at half time.

Just a few observations from me:
- QPR came out with an extremely high press second half and I thought 'here we go again'. But either they couldn't keep it up or Williams has been getting the players to practice short passes in tight situations, because I thought I saw a fair few of those in the first 15 minutes of the second half. Not all of them successful, but again, a work in progress.
- Having said that, our game plan second half was clearly to defend our lead and try to nick the odd goal on the break (and with a bit more luck we could have had three more that way). Whether that was Williams instructing them from afar, Grimes or the coaches doing the half-time teamtalk, we've seen that too many times this season and it mostly hasn't ended well. Hope to see a bit more ambition in the second half of the season.
- Did Williams really say "that performance just stank of [Grimes]" or was that a clever wind-up?!!!

But yes, I agree, onwards and with any luck upwards!
 
People are just being silly here - that performance yesterday had the Luke Williams stamp all over it.

The style of play was pure Luke Williams - what happens from the coaching team during team talks is minimal compared to the hours on the training ground.

Plenty of managers past and present have done this - we’ve had the kit men and kitchen staff giving team talks in the past … no one was complaining then.

Onwards and upwards!
That’s fair enough, but why change the routine for yesterday and then tell the press?
 
People are just being silly here - that performance yesterday had the Luke Williams stamp all over it.

The style of play was pure Luke Williams - what happens from the coaching team during team talks is minimal compared to the hours on the training ground.

Plenty of managers past and present have done this - we’ve had the kit men and kitchen staff giving team talks in the past … no one was complaining then.

Onwards and upwards!
As I said yesterday, nothing to complain about performance wise so latching on to this now
 
I think the 2nd half was pure game management and conservation of energy before another important game on Sunday.

We didn’t get out of 2nd gear.
We didn't get out of second gear against Sunderland, QPR weren't good enough to capitalise on that. If they had got 1 goal who knows what would have happened.
 
We didn't get out of second gear against Sunderland, QPR weren't good enough to capitalise on that. If they had got 1 goal who knows what would have happened.
Can't see the drop off in performance being game management, we've had subs bench if we want to conserve energy.

I get the impression this squad can't maintain a performance for a full ninety minutes.
 

Swansea City v Luton Town

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