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Williams out

For the benefit of doubt, as funny as it would be to see his one gameplan fall to bits, I do not want him back either. Despite getting us to the playoffs twice, I absolutely hated watching his team, probably only Paulo Sousa's season was worse on the eyes.

I'm still saying let's back Williams properly in the next two windows and see where we are then. We're not going down this season, we're not going up. So let's give it a go. If these new owners have got anything about them they'll want to help him because our squad is pwp.
I hate it when people say "we're not going down, and we're not going up". We're probably way nearer the drop than people think, and it won't take too many repeats of last Saturday to be right in the middle of it. It's sheer arrogance.
 
Sousa did what he had to do with the players he had available in the circumstances he was working with.

Given Martinez's efforts to "scorched Earth" the club at the point of his departure, equalling his previous league placement never mind exceeding it has to go down as a significant achievement on Sousa's part.
 
I hate it when people say "we're not going down, and we're not going up". We're probably way nearer the drop than people think, and it won't take too many repeats of last Saturday to be right in the middle of it. It's sheer arrogance.

I'm not being arrogant, far from it. If you asked me which scenario is more likely with this pool of players, I'd agree with you, we're more likely to go downwards than upwards.

But, on the balance of probabilities after nearly half a season completed, and assessing the rest of the division, the most likely outcome is that we stay more or less where our arses are plonked currently.

I don't think that's arrogance, that's just being pragmatic and applying a bit of common sense.
 

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