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Williams out

How can anyone say that Bianchini, Vip, Eom etc are shit based on such a small sample?

Tymon wasn't shit at Stoke. These players are good enough to take it to Leeds and dominated against Sunderland for 35 minutes. That is the bar that should be set in terms of that's what they can do.

So the players capability is proven now and again. Is it not.on the management to deliver on getting a consistent tune from that?
Ultimately the failure of the team and their performances on a regular basis has to sit with the manager.
 
I'd even consider Cooper back tbf.

We don't get consistent results or good football so might as well make a play for one rather than neither.
'Even consider' ??

75% of Swans fans would jump at this (just as they did when he was let go)

Effective, efficient winning footy. Again.

The fact that Cooperball smashed Martinwang 9-2 in this league says it all (and 3-2 in the Prem).

This league is about winning, and winning by getting the very best out of relatively limited resource, in a limited backwater of dreams. Cooper gets that. Martin pretended to, and some of us proper fans saw right through the charlatan. Williams is just another Martin fraud. Fact.

Cooper In.
 
'Even consider' ??

75% of Swans fans would jump at this (just as they did when he was let go)

Effective, efficient winning footy. Again.

The fact that Cooperball smashed Martinwang 9-2 in this league says it all (and 3-2 in the Prem).

This league is about winning, and winning by getting the very best out of relatively limited resource, in a limited backwater of dreams. Cooper gets that. Martin pretended to, and some of us proper fans saw right through the charlatan. Williams is just another Martin fraud. Fact.

Cooper In.
Where did you get that figure from?

Were you outside the ground for the Sunderland game with a clipboard.
 
'Even consider' ??

75% of Swans fans would jump at this (just as they did when he was let go)

Effective, efficient winning footy. Again.

The fact that Cooperball smashed Martinwang 9-2 in this league says it all (and 3-2 in the Prem).

This league is about winning, and winning by getting the very best out of relatively limited resource, in a limited backwater of dreams. Cooper gets that. Martin pretended to, and some of us proper fans saw right through the charlatan. Williams is just another Martin fraud. Fact.

Cooper In.
I mean let's disregard having an interview with Fulham before our biggest game in years and putting his feet up in the air as soon as he knew Ayew and all his loans would be gone.

Those down in the deepest darkest backwater roads of the Gower all know the talents of Cooperwang but doesn't mean you should always go back.
 
I mean let's disregard having an interview with Fulham before our biggest game in years and putting his feet up in the air as soon as he knew Ayew and all his loans would be gone.

Those down in the deepest darkest backwater roads of the Gower all know the talents of Cooperwang but doesn't mean you should always go back.
You're right. They say 'never go back' with good reason.

But after the shockingly horrific Martin and now Luke show, we need a proper real re-set.

The proper antidote to cleanse us, back to reality.

The antithesis to loser LukeMartinball.
 
What makes you think he doesn't know a decent manager? Apart from his nationality.
Have you ever become an expert in anything after only 15 months? Maybe he’s got immense innate ability to spot managers suited to us and the EFL in general, and it’s been wasted his whole life until now. I suspect not though.

There’s also the issue of us having recruited poorly on and off the pitch since he got here.

So I’d argue he’s not proven yet that he does have the eye to spot a top manager in the making. Maybe Luke will proven me wrong. Maybe.
 
Top half of the table and I would have bitten the hand off for that if predicted start of the season.

Today was not great all round and can't be excused.

I think if we were all honest, stood back and looked at the table that top half of the season over Xmas is not so bad.

We have a weak squad, we certainly have a thin squad and just because a poster states it doesn't cut it doesn't actually mean it to be true.

It's a bad day today but I think taking a stand back with a big deep breath and a look at a table will be followed with "we are not doing too bad".
We need to get away from this attitude that we're a mud table club, mainly because we're a mere 9 points off the drop zone, and with a manager who appears to have lost the players, and is losing fans by the bucketload game on game. The team selection today, against a team who were serial losers, was beyond bizarre, and leaving the club's best player on the bench for the duration beggars belief. We gloat about Cardiff being in the drop zone, but it wouldn't take too many more defeats for us to join them. Sorry, but for me, it's a definite Williams out.
 
Stopped attacking posters whilst attacking posters.

Another classic from Andy Cole.
Who are you ?

Never noticed you before.

Yet you seem to be obsessed.

Ah, I get it - you are Indecisive Dave (The Fast Show), the bloke that always swings both ways, with no backbone. No substance, no conviction, no nothing. Just a flaky nothingness with Octopus(😉)-like tentacles in all camps.
 
Have you ever become an expert in anything after only 15 months? Maybe he’s got immense innate ability to spot managers suited to us and the EFL in general, and it’s been wasted his whole life until now. I suspect not though.

There’s also the issue of us having recruited poorly on and off the pitch since he got here.

So I’d argue he’s not proven yet that he does have the eye to spot a top manager in the making. Maybe Luke will proven me wrong. Maybe.
You can learn another language in roughly the same time, so yes you can become an expert in that timescale if you want to be pedantic.

How much of an expert was Huw Jenkins? How much of an expert is John Henry the Liverpool owner?

Coleman is no mug, neither are the people who have bought the club. To say that he has no knowledge of football is a little naive.

Again I suspect your sentiment is based on his nationality.
 
Who are you ?

Never noticed you before.

Yet you seem to be obsessed.

Ah, I get it - you are Indecisive Dave (The Fast Show), the bloke that always swings both ways, with no backbone. No substance, no conviction, no nothing. Just a flaky nothingness with Octopus(😉)-like tentacles in all camps.
Never seen the fast show, I'll have to take your word for it.
 
Craig Bellamy has transformed Wales using the same players as Rob Page.
Well that's because it's a similar situation.

The talent was always there, Page was the issue and it was very obvious.

With us, we don't have the talent. If you did a straw poll of the current top 8 they wouldn't take a single player off us apart from Vigoroux or Franco. And even then it wouldn't be cut and dried.
 
Well that's because it's a similar situation.

The talent was always there, Page was the issue and it was very obvious.

With us, we don't have the talent. If you did a straw poll of the current top 8 they wouldn't take a single player off us apart from Vigoroux or Franco. And even then it wouldn't be cut and dried.
You could say the same thing of Williams.
 

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