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Bale and Ramsey

TerryPHELAN

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Time to hang up your boots, certainly at international level, and bed in some youth.
 
Undoubtedly.

Bale has been magnificent for us over the years and dragged us to three finals which we should be grateful for. Not just his play but his enthusiasm and commitment to the cause. Compare and contrast to a certain Giggs, R.

Time to pass the baton on and hope that the likes of Johnson develop into something special.
 
J_B said:
Undoubtedly.

Bale has been magnificent for us over the years and dragged us to three finals which we should be grateful for. Not just his play but his enthusiasm and commitment to the cause. Compare and contrast to a certain Giggs, R.

Time to pass the baton on and hope that the likes of Johnson develop into something special.

Time to pass it on next Tuesday, but no doubt they will have their final curtain by jobs for the boys 'Pagey'. Especially as Bale wasn't playing today. Joniesto and Gunter also probably.
 
We'll probably see them around for a little bit more yet.

Patently obvious neither are match fit, that coupled with their ageing legs (for footballers). We qualified at the wrong time unfortunately. Trouble is, I doubt we will produce their calibre of player for a while yet, certainly nothing imminent. Joey is also in their category as well, maybe slightly behind them.
 
Bale was poor today, the few occasions he had the ball he offloaded it like a hot potato.
 
TerryPHELAN said:
Time to hang up your boots, certainly at international level, and bed in some youth.

They will, but only after they've had that World Cup experience that some think they were owed

Nobody can argue with Bales place in the squad on ability l

Ramsey? Shouldnt have had a hope in hell, has been crap for years and barring the Euros in 2016 , has never been a talisman like Bale has

Joe is simply injured.
 
Ramsey could never do the basics with Wales, he keeps trying elaborate flicks that usually don't come off, attitude problem, plus he's been gash for years now anyway, so it's no shock, Bale is clearly not what he was, two players that should retire imminently for the good of the squad, take Hennessey, Johnny Williams, Gunter, Tony Roberts, Page and Symons away from international football, because they're not international standard anything.. maybe Mepham an all, he's dog turd
 
Skip, if we only played international standard players we’d be lucky to get 6 on the park.
 
JustJack said:
They will, but only after they've had that World Cup experience that some think they were owed

Nobody can argue with Bales place in the squad on ability l

Ramsey? Shouldnt have had a hope in hell, has been crap for years and barring the Euros in 2016 , has never been a talisman like Bale has

Joe is simply injured.

Who do you want Page to start instead of Ramsey though? Agree he’s way past his best and not suited to playing CM either, but since JA couldn’t play 90 minutes today the other options were Joe Morrell and Dylan Levitt. No offence to those guys but if Ramsey isn’t World Cup quality what are they?
 
JackFish said:
Who do you want Page to start instead of Ramsey though? Agree he’s way past his best and not suited to playing CM either, but since JA couldn’t play 90 minutes today the other options were Joe Morrell and Dylan Levitt. No offence to those guys but if Ramsey isn’t World Cup quality what are they?

Answer’s obvious. Sorba Thomas

Actually the answer is obvious. Oliver Cooper. But Pagey scuppered that one.

Could always do Johnno Williams in his bath chair I suppose. Would have the same impact on the game as Ramsey.
 
monmouth said:
Answer’s obvious. Sorba Thomas

Actually the answer is obvious. Oliver Cooper. But Pagey scuppered that one.

Could always do Johnno Williams in his bath chair I suppose. Would have the same impact on the game as Ramsey.

Dan James has regressed at a massive rate of knots, not convinced on Johnson either and Joe was never fit enough to take part today there was so much wrong with us today its hard to pin point particular parts of our game and I only saw the last 35 mins or so.
 
Skippyjack said:
Ramsey could never do the basics with Wales, he keeps trying elaborate flicks that usually don't come off, attitude problem, plus he's been gash for years now anyway, so it's no shock, Bale is clearly not what he was, two players that should retire imminently for the good of the squad, take Hennessey, Johnny Williams, Gunter, Tony Roberts, Page and Symons away from international football, because they're not international standard anything.. maybe Mepham an all, he's dog turd

Ramsey as always been vastly overrated in my honest opinion, its just the big moments he has had and there's no denying that he hasn't had great moments have clouded people's judgement.

Disagree on Hennessy, he's kept us in plenty of games including the USA game, just what he was thinking in blasting out so far today though I've no idea.
 
Niigata Jack said:
Ramsey as always been vastly overrated in my honest opinion, its just the big moments he has had and there's no denying that he hasn't had great moments have clouded people's judgement.

Disagree on Hennessy, he's kept us in plenty of games including the USA game, just what he was thinking in blasting out so far today though I've no idea.

He's had his moments no doubt, it's just his attitude whilst playing for Wales, when Wenger was managing Arsenal you rarely saw Ramsey try all tricks and flicks like he does for Wales
 

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