Charlie Kirk

[Pentyrchjack]

It was a very precise shot from distance for an untrained mixed up kid

 

[J_B]

The “Christian” right in the US has so much in common with the Muslim fundamentalists that they apparently despise. Both hate gays, trans etc., both think women should be suppressed and reduced to baby farms.
They also love to cherry pick the bible to support their views but they don’t like the bits about helping the poor or loving their neighbour.
Christian my arse.

 

[Pompeyjack]

Yes. I think that was the video, that came up on X yesterday, the question was 'if your daughter was raped, and got pregnant, would you agree, to terminate the pregnancy' or something like that, and he said 'No' the baby would be born.

Its a really tough question that, I'm anti abortion but in circumstances like that, what the hell do you say to people.

The vast majority of people would just bury their heads in the sand (unless it was their situation). Fair play to the likes of Kirk who are happy to diplomatically debate such issues. Surely discussing an issue is better than getting constant 5 sec snippets from left/right algorithms.

 

[jack123]

Should he be praised for standing up for and speaking out for "his views"? Or castrated for explaining his religious beliefs?

Most definitely praised. It takes a brave man, to against the grain. I have only watched a few of his vids, but the anti abortion stance, I'm totally on board with, I don't go to Church or nothing, but I would never say it's ok to extinguish a life, I feel guilty If i step on a slug by mistake.

 

[rockinj]

Most definitely praised. It takes a brave man, to against the grain. I have only watched a few of his vids, but the anti abortion stance, I'm totally on board with, I don't go to Church or nothing, but I would never say it's ok to extinguish a life, I feel guilty If i step on a slug by mistake.

I find it a very challenging area. What I cannot comprehend is how being anti abortion is an abhorrent position. It sounds counter intuitive to me.

I however do think women should have rights under the law but it should never be a non debate. Again back to the central issue on this whole thread.

I actually got persuaded by Stella Creasy on this one when she spoke about the legal safeguards. Amazing isn’t it a soft left Labour MP who I naturally don’t agree with and she persuaded me. What are the chances aye.

 

[Darran]

It was a very precise shot from distance for an untrained mixed up kid

Who said he was untrained?
These are some photos from the family Facebook,the first one is his mother.

 

[Longlostjack]

Nothing’s been moderated or changed to be fair. All views remain as originally posted by all posters. As it should be. There are many differences of opinion here but nothing beyond the pale.

But just making sure they’re not beyond the pale and doing that in your free time - respect.

 

[Pegojack]

I found his views, all of them without exception, utterly, utterly abhorrent.

I also found his death utterly abhorrent. When we oppose people's political views, we argue with them, we debate with them, we defeat them with logic and morality. Or not, as the case may be. That is democracy.
We do not kill them. Political violence only leads us into the abyss and is never acceptable, from left or right.

 

[jack123]

I find it a very challenging area. What I cannot comprehend is how being anti abortion is an abhorrent position. It sounds counter intuitive to me.

I however do think women should have rights under the law but it should never be a non debate. Again back to the central issue on this whole thread.

I actually got persuaded by Stella Creasy on this one when she spoke about the legal safeguards. Amazing isn’t it a soft left Labour MP who I naturally don’t agree with and she persuaded me. What are the chances aye.

Yeah, there are not many things I feel strongly about, but the subject of abortion is definitely one of them, god knows why that is mind, just don't know, guess it's just the preservation of life.

 

[Darran]

Yeah, there are not many things I feel strongly about, but the subject of abortion is definitely one of them, god knows why that is mind, just don't know, guess it's just the preservation of life.

This isn’t aimed at you but people need to shut up and leave a woman alone to do what she wants.
And JRM can go fuck himself too.

 

[Pentyrchjack]

Who said he was untrained?
These are some photos from the family Facebook,the first one is his mother.

And you believe Facebook posts?

 

[jack123]

This isn’t aimed at you but people need to shut up and leave a woman alone to do what she wants.
And JRM can go fuck himself too.

Sorry, but the young one has no voice, somebody has to speak up for the unborn child, 'oh I'm too busy with work, let's have a termination'.

You are correct though, it's her body, and entirely her decision the way the law stands now.

 

[Darran]

Sorry, but the young one has no voice, somebody has to speak up for the unborn child, 'oh I'm too busy with work, let's have a termination'.

You are correct though, it's her body, and entirely her decision the way the law stands now.

Young one? There’s only a blim there ffs.

 

[Darran]

And you believe Facebook posts?

Yes when they’re real.

 

[JackSomething]

No person whatsoever, whether they be on the left or right, deserves to suffer violence let alone be killed for the beliefs they hold and express. Absolutely disgusting sentiments coming from the left over social media the last few days. It’s like the word ‘fascist’ has completely lost meaning. What could be more fascist than murdering someone because they hold different views from you and those who celebrate that death?

You were doing well with your first sentence then it fell apart.

You wouldn't have to look far for disgusting sentiments coming from the right over social media in the days after Vance Boelter killed a Democratic politician and her husband, shot another Democrat and his wife multiple times and had plans to target 70 Democrats. The scumbags are on both sides. I'd argue the worst comes from the Right, but I also admit I'm biased in that regard.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89ev9j955ko