Charlie Kirk

[cockett_jack]

No person whatsoever, whether they be on the left or right, deserves to suffer violence let alone be killed for the beliefs they hold and express. Absolutely disgusting sentiments coming from the left over social media the last few days. It’s like the word ‘fascist’ has completely lost meaning. What could be more fascist than murdering someone because they hold different views from you and those who celebrate that death?

 

[Neath_Jack]

Is there a difference between a person's views and the views that that person has due to their religious beliefs?

Religion needs to get in the bin as well. It’s used too often as an excuse for pricks behaving badly. Take a look at our so called patriots lately, they’ve all suddenly become devout christians. Fucking bollox.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

Is there a difference between a person's views and the views that that person has due to their religious beliefs?

It's often convenient for people to hide behind "religious beliefs" in order to justify all manner of atrocious opinions and behaviours.

 

[rockinj]

Now we’re at the religion is a load of bollocks stage it’s long over time to leave. Zzzzzzzzzz

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

Now we’re at the religion is a load of bollocks stage it’s long over time to leave. Zzzzzzzzzz

I thought you liked a bit of chin stroking over different/alternative views though?

 

[Eomisgod]

No person whatsoever, whether they be on the left or right, deserves to suffer violence let alone be killed for the beliefs they hold and express. Absolutely disgusting sentiments coming from the left over social media the last few days. It’s like the word ‘fascist’ has completely lost meaning. What could be more fascist than murdering someone because they hold different views from you and those who celebrate that death?

We live with this all the time.

It's a very very scary place to be with Loony Lefty Leaders casting they're dark shadows over our world.

This thread alone shows the Lefties all up for being irrational and scarily incoherent in their shouty dialogues.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

We live with this all the time.

It's a very very scary place to be with Loony Lefty Leaders casting they're dark shadows over our world.

This thread alone shows the Lefties all up for being irrational and scarily incoherent in their shouty dialogues.

Lol la Lolla

 

[Pompeyjack]

It's often convenient for people to hide behind "religious beliefs" in order to justify all manner of atrocious opinions and behaviours.

I ask as it was brought up about the rights and wrongs of abortion of a life conceived through rape. Kirk was asked a hypothetical question weather he believed it would be ok to have aborted. Based on his religion "he is against alll abortion".

 

[exiledclaseboy]

I ask as it was brought up about the rights and wrongs of abortion of a life conceived through rape. Kirk was asked a hypothetical question weather he believed it would be ok to have aborted. Based on his religion "he is against alll abortion".

Not quite. I believe he said he would have allowed exceptions for where the mother’s life was in danger. But no exceptions where the mother had conceived through rape. So not against all abortion. He was choosy.

 

[rockinj]

I ask as it was brought up about the rights and wrongs of abortion of a life conceived through rape. Kirk was asked a hypothetical question weather he believed it would be ok to have aborted. Based on his religion "he is against alll abortion".

Which of course many people of colour will agree with. How does this sit with the comrades on this thread? He takes a purist position on when life is formed. This is not evil. This is a viewpoint.

I don’t agree with this I think abortion should be legal personally but as I said earlier I do wonder whether there’s a debate to be had on the legal timeframe. But there are many safeguards in this Country so I do think we’re pretty much on the money.

In response to the religion comment. I just find it such a lazy opinion. It’s just the most cliched lacking in any thought viewpoint.

Take Ramadan. What a wonderful collective ideal that is. Amazing thing to do.

Nihilism what is there in that viewpoint? Is life just something that happens, literally zero meaning to any of it? I’m not even religious but I understand why people seek some spiritual understanding.

 

[Pompeyjack]

Not quite. I believe he said he would have allowed exceptions for where the mother’s life was in danger. But no exceptions where the mother had conceived through rape. So not against all abortion. He was choosy.

I apologise, you are correct. He did indeed say that in that situation the mothers life would be more important than the unborn child.

 

[rockinj]

Not quite. I believe he said he would have allowed exceptions for where the mother’s life was in danger. But no exceptions where the mother had conceived through rape. So not against all abortion. He was choosy.

That isn’t the same thing though is it.

And no I’m not looking for an argument. It just isn’t.

 

[jack123]

I ask as it was brought up about the rights and wrongs of abortion of a life conceived through rape. Kirk was asked a hypothetical question weather he believed it would be ok to have aborted. Based on his religion "he is against alll abortion".

Yes. I think that was the video, that came up on X yesterday, the question was 'if your daughter was raped, and got pregnant, would you agree, to terminate the pregnancy' or something like that, and he said 'No' the baby would be born.

Its a really tough question that, I'm anti abortion but in circumstances like that, what the hell do you say to people.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

That isn’t the same thing though is it.

And no I’m not looking for an argument. It just isn’t.

The same thing as what? I was just answering Pompey’s post, not making any wider point.

 

[Pompeyjack]

Yes. I think that was the video, that came up on X yesterday, the question was 'if your daughter was raped, and got pregnant, would you agree, to terminate the pregnancy' or something like that, and he said 'No' the baby would be born.

Its a really tough question that, I'm anti abortion but in circumstances like that, what the hell do you say to people.

Should he be praised for standing up for and speaking out for "his views"? Or castrated for explaining his religious beliefs?