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[Jack2jack]

I want to suggest any potential solutions but don't want to appear to encourage parking on pavements.

Every road is an individual case and with that thought in my head I really hope that the council excludes roads from the 20 mph default that will have any economic impact. We are are already experiencing the highest levels of poverty in UK and have a small private sector. It is going to be difficult to attract investments as we are so far away from the commercial hub and slowing people down may be a further problem.

In answer to you first paragraph, I dont think there is a solution, that would be cost effective, if there was it would be done, notwithstanding WG remit which is to get cars off the road period, but that's another debate.
As to your other point I believe, other important arterial routes will be assessed on merit. Most if not all residential roads will be 20mph, by default. I agree it has to be looked in a reasonable way, as to not affect the economy and peoples livelihoods.
As an aside Oslo and Helsinki trailed a similar scheme and recorded not one fatality in a 12 month period as a result of the reduced limit.

 

[jack_lord]

In answer to you first paragraph, I dont think there is a solution, that would be cost effective, if there was it would be done, notwithstanding WG remit which is to get cars off the road period, but that's another debate.
As to your other point I believe, other important arterial routes will be assessed on merit. Most if not all residential roads will be 20mph, by default. I agree it has to be looked in a reasonable way, as to not affect the economy and peoples livelihoods.
As an aside Oslo and Helsinki trailed a similar scheme and recorded not one fatality in a 12 month period as a result of the reduced limit.

When I give up work I will try to drive the bare minimum. I have averaged about 40000 a year for the last 25 years and I can't wait for my bus pass even just for the savings and I will chuckle when my bus gets to its destination more quickly than the pmv's around me.

Until that day, however, I am still clocking up the miles and I can imagine the worry of companies who are not going to get the number of jobs completed because in many places the travel time will increase by a third. I know how our office (and home based) service delivery team are practically begging engineers to get another call in to meet targets each day and we all know what longer travel time is going to mean.

There is a dilemma for economic reasons but policy makers will see the black and white stat and it may be hard to argue against that but there is another picture being painted out there.

When there is a scenario of many nations adopting a default of 20 mph then businesses will be hard pressed to argue against it.

 

[Jack2jack]

When I give up work I will try to drive the bare minimum. I have averaged about 40000 a year for the last 25 years and I can't wait for my bus pass even just for the savings and I will chuckle when my bus gets to its destination more quickly than the pmv's around me.

Until that day, however, I am still clocking up the miles and I can imagine the worry of companies who are not going to get the number of jobs completed because in many places the travel time will increase by a third. I know how our office (and home based) service delivery team are practically begging engineers to get another call in to meet targets each day and we all know what longer travel time is going to mean.

There is a dilemma for economic reasons but policy makers will see the black and white stat and it may be hard to argue against that but there is another picture being painted out there.

When there is a scenario of many nations adopting a default of 20 mph then businesses will be hard pressed to argue against it.

I've always said, it's going to be difficult to get folk to switch to PT, given that everything over the last 40 years or so has been set up for the use of the car, folk tend to travel greater distances too and from work, out of town shopping centres have made it almost essential to travel there by car, even your weekly shop requires the use of a car.
That and the fact that our public transport system is expensive, outdated and not that cheap. There needs to be far more investment in PT, and it needs to be a bit more joined up, so to speak.

 

[jack_lord]

I've always said, it's going to be difficult to get folk to switch to PT, given that everything over the last 40 years or so has been set up for the use of the car, folk tend to travel greater distances too and from work, out of town shopping centres have made it almost essential to travel there by car, even your weekly shop requires the use of a car.
That and the fact that our public transport system is expensive, outdated and not that cheap. There needs to be far more investment in PT, and it needs to be a bit more joined up, so to speak.

Add 50000 words with a bit of science and some research and that was my thesis

 

[Jack2jack]

Add 50000 words with a bit of science and some research and that was my thesis

I'm not that clever