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[LeonWasTheDogs]

We could play for 90 more minutes and not score unless it was a fluke (as our first goal was).

Williams has to go now but he has been let down by an absolute lack of any attacking quality at the club. We have no strikers, no wide men that can do anything at all, and no midfield creativity. We simply cannot create anything at all. Zero.

So Williams will go as I said as it’s the only option, but anyone that blames him over the shambles that is the club ownership and management is absolutely insane.

This is all on the head of Coleman. It’s his fault that our last four or five transfer windows have left us in this position. It’s his fault that we have had no director of football to deal with transfers, it’s his fault we can’t get contracts sorted, it’s his fault that the best striker in the pitch today was given away by us.

Absolute disgrace.

100% this.

Until we've got competent leadership, the rest is just re-arranging deckchairs on the Titanic. I too think it is the only option for Williams to go. Sometimes these things take on a life of their own and you just know when times up. The fans have turned, or just turned away, and the players look disjointed and defeated. There's an inevitability about it (not that I think Coleman will see that - I fully expect him to plough on with Williams). But the next manager is going to have to deal with the same problems and the poor squad and will become the next fall guy.

 

[peter]

I can take the relegation from the champ, since we have been in the champ has been cluster fuck after cluster fuck.

We were taken over by a bunch of yanks, ok they had more money than the previous board but they had as much idea of running a football club as George Best had of running an alcholics anonymous.

if we go down it will be far far worse than now we MUST stay in this div

 

[FearOfAJackPlanet]

We're on 37 points right now; 8 points clear of the bottom 3. We probably need another 10-15 points to be safe. Plymouth needed 51 points last year, Cardiff needed 49 the year before.

Looking at our fixtures, we have Blackburn up next, which will be tough.

March is basically a write-off
April/May is a series of never-ending 6 pointers with teams around us (like today...)

Going to be a rough one, whoever is manager.

 

[LaJollaJack]

It's very hard to qualify half of our forwards as they've only been here under Williams, and his plan for them is to turn inside and pass.

I refuse to believe Eom is getting caps for South Korea based on the ability he's shown so far. Same with Vipotnik at Slovakia, and Bianchini looks to have been direct if nothing else in France.

They're all being emasculated by the testosterone-challenged Willy.

Williams is way way beyond the Martinestque sell-by date.

He is rotten to the core, he's rotting our best, most exuberant players beyond their worst nightmares of zero-confidence. As such, all of our players are now delivering <50% of their capacity.

As a team, as players of massive latent talent - we are now beyond lost under Williams' self indulgent Martinesque selfishness.

Get him gone, pronto.

 

[J_B]

Because when we win it’s down to Willy, when we lose it’s the players. Just like Russy. He loves them like a 14 year old girl, that’s why.

I thought it was down to Grimesy when we win? I've obviously lost the blueprint.

 

[magicdaps10]

100% this.

Until we've got competent leadership, the rest is just re-arranging deckchairs on the Titanic. I too think it is the only option for Williams to go. Sometimes these things take on a life of their own and you just know when times up. The fans have turned, or just turned away, and the players look disjointed and defeated. There's an inevitability about it (not that I think Coleman will see that - I fully expect him to plough on with Williams). But the next manager is going to have to deal with the same problems and the poor squad and will become the next fall guy.

Spot on.

The problem is far bigger than the manager and it will just be the same in 12 months with a new face as manager getting the same pelters.

 

[Longlostjack]

Spot on.

The problem is far bigger than the manager and it will just be the same in 12 months with a new face as manager getting the same pelters.

I’ve no doubt that the problems run deeper but the current manager is making the situation far worse than it should be. Needs to go before it’s too late.

 

[LaJollaJack]

100% this.

Until we've got competent leadership, the rest is just re-arranging deckchairs on the Titanic. I too think it is the only option for Williams to go. Sometimes these things take on a life of their own and you just know when times up. The fans have turned, or just turned away, and the players look disjointed and defeated. There's an inevitability about it (not that I think Coleman will see that - I fully expect him to plough on with Williams). But the next manager is going to have to deal with the same problems and the poor squad and will become the next fall guy.

LeonWasTheDogs, mate.
You're clearly a proper football type with proper playing heritage. Of that, there's no doubt.

Check out IAN05's post today - a breath of fresh air and a proper taste of our current reality.

This is nothing about the minutiae - this is all about Williams' lack of strategic footballing perspective - he is utterly forlorn.

We have the players, we have a very decent quorum of a management team without Williams.

Get Williams gone. Then: .......
'Build it, and they will come'......

 

[Smurph]

LeonWasTheDogs, mate.
You're clearly a proper football type with proper playing heritage. Of that, there's no doubt.

Check out IAN05's post today - a breath of fresh air and a proper taste of our current reality.

This is nothing about the minutiae - this is all about Williams' lack of strategic footballing perspective - he is utterly forlorn.

We have the players, we have a very decent quorum of a management team without Williams.

Get Williams gone. Then: .......
'Build it, and they will come'......

Minutiae.........Another one straight from the thesaurus

 

[Londonlisa2001]

This would have more credence if it wasn’t too long ago we despatched QPR 3-0 on Boxing Day for them now to be looking down on us from eleventh in the table. Losing a lead that quickly today for not the first time this season is on the manager, a lot of this is on Luke “speak to my agent” Williams

Every team, no matter how inept, has the odd good day. Over the course of weeks and months, the team normally finds its level.

We’ve had four seasons of being usually mediocre. Hence our league positions.

 

[waynekerr55]

LeonWasTheDogs, mate.
You're clearly a proper football type with proper playing heritage. Of that, there's no doubt.

Check out IAN05's post today - a breath of fresh air and a proper taste of our current reality.

This is nothing about the minutiae - this is all about Williams' lack of strategic footballing perspective - he is utterly forlorn.

We have the players, we have a very decent quorum of a management team without Williams.

Get Williams gone. Then: .......
'Build it, and they will come'......

 

[Londonlisa2001]

They're all being emasculated by the testosterone-challenged Willy.

Williams is way way beyond the Martinestque sell-by date.

He is rotten to the core, he's rotting our best, most exuberant players beyond their worst nightmares of zero-confidence. As such, all of our players are now delivering <50% of their capacity.

As a team, as players of massive latent talent - we are now beyond lost under Williams' self indulgent Martinesque selfishness.

Get him gone, pronto.

In all seriousness. I realise, as we all do, this is a troll account as it has been for many iterations and as it was on the other board as well (and probably still is - I don’t bother looking).

But I don’t wan’t to see this language here. It’s offensive and there are kids reading the board.

Please remove it, or I suggest the mods remove you.

 

[Swansea93]

Getting the team bus to drop you off on the way home is just taking the piss. No wonder the players hate him.

It wouldn’t even surprise me if it was true, like the time he showed up at Legoland and didn’t let the team know supposedly, and Martin used to travel separately to the first team didn’t he?

 

[NEATH JACK 8]

We could play for 90 more minutes and not score unless it was a fluke (as our first goal was).

Williams has to go now but he has been let down by an absolute lack of any attacking quality at the club. We have no strikers, no wide men that can do anything at all, and no midfield creativity. We simply cannot create anything at all. Zero.

So Williams will go as I said as it’s the only option, but anyone that blames him over the shambles that is the club ownership and management is absolutely insane.

This is all on the head of Coleman. It’s his fault that our last four or five transfer windows have left us in this position. It’s his fault that we have had no director of football to deal with transfers, it’s his fault we can’t get contracts sorted, it’s his fault that the best striker in the pitch today was given away by us.

Absolute disgrace.

I have absolutely no concerns with stating Williams is inept and should have gone weeks ago. However, I've had a titful of these overpaid pricks underperforming on the pitch. I don't care if they're being played out of position. They still should be able to pass the ball and other such basics. They have no passion on how much a week ? They have to held responsible as well.
The whole lot of them are shite up to the Chairman.

 

[Cooperman]

The first half was turgid so bombed out at half time and went for a few pints.

Thirty seven pages means that we smashed them in the second half, yeah? What was it, 0-3, 0-4?