Season 24/25 | The Official Match Thread | Cardiff City 3 Swansea City 0 | The EFL Championship

[eteb]

The passing across the back is dreadful. But it’s partly because there is absolutely no movement in front. The players are hiding and / or don’t have the ability to find space.

Potter had a squad that was vastly better than this one. Plus he was an exceptional manager. Which Williams is not. Which brings me back to the management of the club. Letting people like Potter go.

You could have had Elon musk owning us amd potter would have gone, so don't get your point there.

Rest is spot on

 

[magicdaps10]

But there doesn't seem to be any pattern in what we do or are trying to do

Like with potter, we could see what he wanted to do and where we could have gone

Aimless passing across the back is not good enough and is nothing to do with your plsyers

If we create 100 chances a game and miss 100 then yes you blame players, but we are not playin football at all

I see a team who wants to dominate the ball, hold into and create chances but we have poor quality in the final 3rd with very little options to change games from the bench.

It was said that Martin was similar, it was said that we passed for the sake of passing but we finished one season as 6th top goalscorers......defensively was our issue then.

I am adamant he is doing ok without pulling up any trees. I don't think getting rid of a manager in entitlement that we should be doing better than 13th with an average squad is being sensible.
That said, I think if he didn't have the link with Martin that more fans would be seeing the bigger picture far more clearly.

 

[eteb]

I see a team who wants to dominate the ball, hold into and create chances but we have poor quality in the final 3rd with very little options to change games from the bench.

It was said that Martin was similar, it was said that we passed for the sake of passing but we finished one season as 6th top goalscorers......defensively was our issue then.

I am adamant he is doing ok without pulling up any trees. I don't think getting rid of a manager in entitlement that we should be doing better than 13th with an average squad is being sensible.
That said, I think if he didn't have the link with Martin that more fans would be seeing the bigger picture far more clearly.

We're all angry tofay but the recent performances have been horrendous

In balance, some performances under Williams have been exceptional

 

[Darran]

I see a team who wants to dominate the ball, hold into and create chances but we have poor quality in the final 3rd with very little options to change games from the bench.

It was said that Martin was similar, it was said that we passed for the sake of passing but we finished one season as 6th top goalscorers......defensively was our issue then.

I am adamant he is doing ok without pulling up any trees. I don't think getting rid of a manager in entitlement that we should be doing better than 13th with an average squad is being sensible.
That said, I think if he didn't have the link with Martin that more fans would be seeing the bigger picture far more clearly.

Based on our league position he is doing ok but is ok ok?

 

[Neath_Jack]

Based on that performance, not one of our players get in their side. Never mind all the one eyed bollocks about how many of theirs get in ours.

If our two cowards who play on the wing never play for us again it’ll be too soon.

Get a manager in with a set of bollocks, one who will force Grimes to play in actual midfield, not a centre back, one who will give the armband to someone with a bit of passion.

 

[LeonWasTheDogs]

That was appalling. Absolutely appalling. I’m angry to watch it.

But the issues we have are not going to be solved by simply changing the manager. What we saw today was the inevitable result of 6 or 7 years of an absolutely toxic ownership.

For years now we have sold absolutely everyone who is worth more than a few quid, we’ve underinvested in replacements, we’ve attempted to introduce US stats analysis into a game where it doesn’t work, we’ve underinvested in youth, we’ve cocked up contract renewals, we’ve attempted to play chicken over transfer negotiations and lost every single time, we’ve had people running the club that don’t understand the first thing about the game, we’ve got rid of those few who did understand what was needed because people at the top thought they knew better, and we’ve pretended that inheriting money from family somehow makes average minds top business talent.

We do not have a single player in this squad who is capable of beating anyone one on one. We do not have a single player in the squad with any pace, we do not have a single player in the squad who can pick out the creative pass over the mundane. And today we hardly had a player in the squad who gave a crap. Allen, Cabango, possibly Darling looked like they cared, the others not so much.

I cannot believe how many posters think we’ve a good squad. It is absolutely woeful. We have a keeper, two centre backs, two midfielders that are even reasonable level championship standard, that’s it. It would need a very special manager to make us anything other than not very good.
Williams is not that. But I can’t think of who we could bring in that would be so special that they could make this collection of mediocrity look anything other than the sum of their limited parts.

We need an absolute overhaul of everything. But unless money is forthcoming we cannot do that.

Special mention btw to the Trust, who despite multiple warnings, decided mediocrity and the collapse of everything that was achieved previously was a price worth paying for a comfy seat and a pat on their heads.

That’s how I see it too. We also needed an actually change of ownership, not just effectively an internal promotion and therefore continuation of some of the main problems. Even though getting rid of Kaplan and Levien was welcome I’m not convinced we’re going to get what’s needed under Coleman’s chairmanship. I hope he proves me wrong.

 

[magicdaps10]

Based on our league position he is doing ok but is ok ok?

For me yes but clearly others want more.

 

[eteb]

Based on that performance, not one of our players get in their side. Never mind all the one eyed bollocks about how many of theirs get in ours.

If our two cowards who play on the wing never play for us again it’ll be too soon.

Get a manager in with a set of bollocks, one who will force Grimes to play in actual midfield, not a centre back, one who will give the armband to someone with a bit of passion.

Grimes should never captain us again, but then again who would? Cabango and darling both horrendous today

Franco maybe?

 

[Smurph]

For me yes but clearly others want more.

You might want try and higher your standard if you think he's doing ok.

 

[magicdaps10]

We're all angry tofay but the recent performances have been horrendous

In balance, some performances under Williams have been exceptional

It's been good days and bad, it doesn't help that today was a bad day against them lot up the road.

We do seem to have a hardcore of fans who just want Williams gone, a core that seems to mention his mentor quite frequent which highlights a bigger picture for me.

It might be that we need a break from Williams just to totally cut off all ties from Martin.

 

[A4Jack]

For me yes but clearly others want more.

But Duff was a charlatan?

 

[Darran]

For me yes but clearly others want more.

We have a very poor squad but thats not solely down to Luke.
For me he sees the season out and we take stock in the summer.
And just for the record I’m far from happy.

 

[magicdaps10]

You might want try and higher your standard if you think he's doing ok.

Reality needs to come into the scenario also.

We don't have the quality and depth to push on.
If the board gets a centre half, midfielder and winger in at least between now and the windows close.....we don't push on a bit then I might start agreeing that it's time he definitely needs to move on.

 

[Smurph]

We have a very poor squad but thats not solely down to Luke.
For me he sees the season out and we take stock in the summer.
And just for the record I’m far from happy.

It doesn't matter what squad he has at his disposal he'll never achieve anything at this level.

 

[A4Jack]

Reality needs to come into the scenario also.

We don't have the quality and depth to push on.
If the board gets a centre half, midfielder and winger in at least between now and the windows close.....we don't push on a bit then I might start agreeing that it's time he definitely needs to move on.

It's funny because many were saying Cardiff's squad was terrible weeks ago.

None of them would get in our squad it was said etc...

But we beat them easily at the end of last season with squads not too dissimilar to what is there now.

This is the problem with certain people. When we lose, it's the lack of quality. But when we win the quality is just discovered out of nowhere, is it?