Sleepy Joe

[Villageswan]

At least he didn't tell people to drink bleach
Is Biden too old to be president , probably , should he run again , definitely not
Biden is a hero who stopped a fascist getting a second term , that is clear from everything trump did after he lost , the history books will show that , unless of course the people he defeated should get in power again , they will print their own version of history

Don't get over defensive because you think that BLAZE is telling the truth about this. It's the classic right wing attack where they make an absurd statement and then quickly move away from it, because they believe that mud sticks whether it's true or not, and so far they've been proved right. It does sound that you believed that BLAZE was telling the truth. Here's the Snopes fact checking site proving that it's a load of garbage: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-ron-burgundy/

And why did nobody here ask to see a clip with the START of his quote? Including me. Update: Even the Daily Mail says that it's a fake accusation.

Snopes? You mean the dishonest left wing “fact” checking website?

It’s about as impartial as you are by the sounds of it.

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/snopes

These “fact” checking websites exist simply as another arm of the social media companies. They use them to skew reality and can then use their “findings” to censor social media comments.

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist. The bloke read an autocue instruction to “repeat the line”.

If it wasn’t an autocue instruction as he was genuinely telling us he is about he to repeat the line… then why didn’t he repeat the line?

It’s not the first time he has done that kind of thing.

 

[Villageswan]

Hey Glyn1

This is the White House rep, rewriting what was said to cover up his blooper.

Do you think she’s telling the truth? Use your ears, transcribe what he actually says… and let us know.

https://twitter.com/EmilieSimons46/status/1545444891609776128

 

[JackSomething]

Biden clearly is not an inspiring President and at his age, gaffes during live speeches are going to happen.

At least he didn't say "you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides" after a right-wing nutjob literally murdered someone in Charlottesville. So things have improved in that regard at least.

 

[Villageswan]

Biden clearly is not an inspiring President and at his age, gaffes during live speeches are going to happen.

At least he didn't say "you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides" after a right-wing nutjob literally murdered someone in Charlottesville. So things have improved in that regard at least.

I never understood the exception some took to that. It was misquoted at the time and seems to have stuck.

He was asked about Nazis and white supremacists, in true left wing media fashion.

He responded saying that he didn’t see any, but condemns them. He said there were good people there on both sides too.

Not sure what is offensive about that, common sense isn’t it?

 

[JackSomething]

Biden clearly is not an inspiring President and at his age, gaffes during live speeches are going to happen.

At least he didn't say "you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides" after a right-wing nutjob literally murdered someone in Charlottesville. So things have improved in that regard at least.

I never understood the exception some took to that. It was misquoted at the time and seems to have stuck.

He was asked about Nazis and white supremacists, in true left wing media fashion.

He responded saying that he didn’t see any, but condemns them. He said there were good people there on both sides too.

Not sure what is offensive about that, common sense isn’t it?

Saying there are good people on both sides, when one side contains a murderer and the other side his victim is not a good look.

Call it common sense if you like, I call it performing contortions to try and justify the actions of someone you clearly agree with politically.

BTW, I quoted from the transcript, so no misquoting going on here.

 

[Villageswan]

But he wasn’t talking about that specific incident. He was talking about the thousands of people there.

He was essentially saying that it’s unfair to label everyone a Nazi, there were also good people on both sides.

If you used the full quote then that it would have become apparent.

It’s a bit like a Swansea fan killing a Cardiff fan, Russell gets asked “why are you a manager of a team with murderers as supporters”.

He replies, “there was 20,000 supporters there. There a good people there too. Bad ones we condemn”.

Nothing remotely controversial.

 

[AceJack]

Biden clearly is not an inspiring President and at his age, gaffes during live speeches are going to happen.

At least he didn't say "you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides" after a right-wing nutjob literally murdered someone in Charlottesville. So things have improved in that regard at least.

He was asked about Nazis and white supremacists, in true left wing media fashion.

In true left wing media fashion? Is it left wing to ask questions about Nazis and white supremacists now?

 

[Villageswan]

He was asked about Nazis and white supremacists, in true left wing media fashion.

In true left wing media fashion? Is it left wing to ask questions about Nazis and white supremacists now?

Depends what the context is and what point is trying to be made.

In this instance the left wing media were trying to falsely portray everyone in attendance as Nazis because it slotted in nicely with their false narrative at the time.

So that was in true left wing media fashion, yes.

 

[AceJack]

In true left wing media fashion? Is it left wing to ask questions about Nazis and white supremacists now?

Depends what the context is and what point is trying to be made.

In this instance the left wing media were trying to falsely portray everyone in attendance as Nazis because it slotted in nicely with their false narrative at the time.

So that was in true left wing media fashion, yes.

What false narrative was that then? Because the established facts around the Charlottesville incident is neo nazis and white supremacists marched to defend the removal of a statue of a slave owner. In the process, they chanted "jews will not replace us" and one person was killed.

People who march alongside Nazis aren't good people, they are nazis.

 

[Villageswan]

I just explained that. The false narrative that everyone at that protest/gathering was a Nazi. That is false.

If you are a Nazi for being at the same event as a Nazi, then surely that Nazi is also not a Nazi for being at the same event as someone who isn’t. That’s where your logic doesn’t stack up, it must work both ways.

There were thousands of people there. Some of them were Antifa scum intent on causing criminal damage, some of them were Nazi scum intent on fighting them.

The rest were probably fine people, to categorise them all as Nazis is very silly indeed.

 

[AceJack]

I just explained that. The false narrative that everyone at that protest/gathering was a Nazi. That is false.

If you are a Nazi for being at the same event as a Nazi, then surely that Nazi is also not a Nazi for being at the same event as someone who isn’t. That’s where your logic doesn’t stack up, it must work both ways.

There were thousands of people there. Some of them were Antifa scum intent on causing criminal damage, some of them were Nazi scum intent on fighting them.

The rest were probably fine people, to categorise them all as Nazis is very silly indeed.

Hi Dimi

 

[Villageswan]

I take it you are stumped then?

 

[AceJack]

I just explained that. The false narrative that everyone at that protest/gathering was a Nazi. That is false.

If you are a Nazi for being at the same event as a Nazi, then surely that Nazi is also not a Nazi for being at the same event as someone who isn’t. That’s where your logic doesn’t stack up, it must work both ways.

There were thousands of people there. Some of them were Antifa scum intent on causing criminal damage, some of them were Nazi scum intent on fighting them.

The rest were probably fine people, to categorise them all as Nazis is very silly indeed.

Genuinely though, what an embarrassing event at obfuscation.

Very fine people don't march to defend slave owners, nor do they do it alongside a pack of white supremacists who are responsible for murdering a person, all while chanting "jews will not replace us"

 

[Villageswan]

What do you mean “defend slave owners”? The bloke had been dead 150 years, he doesn’t need defending. You are assuming people were there for the same reasons.

Slavery unfortunately was a part of life, and has been a part of life in every country around the globe. He wasn’t celebrated for his slave owning, he was celebrated for being one of the greatest generals in US military history.

It is the truly thick that hold historical figures to modern day standards.

Some people chanting a silly provocative chant doesn’t mean everyone there agrees with them. I’ve heard some vile chants at various football matches, doesn’t mean I agree with them.

As for marching alongside “a pack of white supremacists responsible for murdering someone” - wasn’t it just one bloke in a car?

 

[AceJack]

What do you mean “defend slave owners”? The bloke had been dead 150 years, he doesn’t need defending. You are assuming people were there for the same reasons.

Slavery unfortunately was a part of life, and has been a part of life in every country around the globe. He wasn’t celebrated for his slave owning, he was celebrated for being one of the greatest generals in US military history.

It is the truly thick that hold historical figures to modern day standards.

Some people chanting a silly provocative chant doesn’t mean everyone there agrees with them. I’ve heard some vile chants at various football matches, doesn’t mean I agree with them.

As for marching alongside “a pack of white supremacists responsible for murdering someone” - wasn’t it just one bloke in a car?

Recognising slavery as being a moral evil is not a "modern day standard" :lol:

One of the greatest generals in US military history? He was a slave owner who fought and killed US troops to defend his right to own black people as property, and he lost.

If you've heard vile chanting at football matches and not reported it to a steward or the club you are part of the problem and so is every supporter who turns a blind eye to it.

Downplaying something as vile as "jews will not replace us" to "silly" and "provocative"? You've given yourself away properly there.