Spineless Cooper

[Jinxy]

Cooper is human (shock, horror) after all. Like us all, he's on a learning curve but evidently he has got far more things right than wrong. Personally, I'm enjoying the journey and, in the absence of going to the games, just glad to be able to watch my beloved Swans live on the telly. We'll have ups and downs, we may even go on a bad run, who knows. Some clubs' fans are facing relegation and financial ruin battles. We're very lucky IMHO.

Oh and one more thing - should we get promoted, it's likely we'll watch us losing more than winning. So, enjoy the moment and careful what you wish for...

 

[LeonWasTheDog's]

Bit baffled how he can be called spineless really. Not sure what people want. We take off a midfielder or a defender to go more attacking and we lose that game easily. Obviously Naughton going off limits the options further.

However, Naughton should have been taken off HT for Latibeaudiere or Bennett. But that's not spineless, that's just an erroneous decision.

Yep. I wouldn't say keeping 2 forwards on the pitch when we go down to 10 men is spineless and defensive. We set up identically to how we normally do, but Brentford pushed their full backs up and played direct whenever there was space in behind, and that took Bids and Connor out of the game from an attacking point of view.

Probably the only thing I would have changed in the lineup would have been Latibeaudiere in for Naughton. I'm not saying this because of the sending off; I've always felt Naughton slows us down too much and offers less defensively than any of the CBs. He's very much backup quality for me these days.

 

[CurtessECarr]

His post match interview on Quest was interesting. ''I thought there was nothing in the game'' 2 shots at home against 21 hmmm.I beg to differ. If that was the other way around I think he like us all would be wondering how we didn't win the game.

 

[JackSomething]

I'm not speaking for others, but for me it's perfectly possible to be delighted with taking a point last night given the poor performance, to think Cooper's doing an overall great job, but also to wish he'd show a little more ambition with our style of play.

Again, I can't speak for others, but a poor result on Saturday will not see me calling for his head.

 

[Badlands]

Bit baffled how he can be called spineless really. Not sure what people want. We take off a midfielder or a defender to go more attacking and we lose that game easily. Obviously Naughton going off limits the options further.

However, Naughton should have been taken off HT for Latibeaudiere or Bennett. But that's not spineless, that's just an erroneous decision.

Yep. I wouldn't say keeping 2 forwards on the pitch when we go down to 10 men is spineless and defensive. We set up identically to how we normally do, but Brentford pushed their full backs up and played direct whenever there was space in behind, and that took Bids and Connor out of the game from an attacking point of view.

Probably the only thing I would have changed in the lineup would have been Latibeaudiere in for Naughton. I'm not saying this because of the sending off; I've always felt Naughton slows us down too much and offers less defensively than any of the CBs. He's very much backup quality for me these days.

You are right - that wasn't spineless .... it was clueless.
Neither Lowe nor Ayew were having any impact on the game and we were getting battered and only the work of Cabango, Guehi, Fulton, Woodman (to a degree) and Bidwell late on was up to scratch.
If they had been aiming to miss Woodman rather than hit him the score could have been embarrassing.
Cooper spineless? Yes, because he either didn't have the bottle or nous to make the changes needed.

 

[Swanjaxs]

Yep. I wouldn't say keeping 2 forwards on the pitch when we go down to 10 men is spineless and defensive. We set up identically to how we normally do, but Brentford pushed their full backs up and played direct whenever there was space in behind, and that took Bids and Connor out of the game from an attacking point of view.

Probably the only thing I would have changed in the lineup would have been Latibeaudiere in for Naughton. I'm not saying this because of the sending off; I've always felt Naughton slows us down too much and offers less defensively than any of the CBs. He's very much backup quality for me these days.

You are right - that wasn't spineless .... it was clueless.
Neither Lowe nor Ayew were having any impact on the game and we were getting battered and only the work of Cabango, Guehi, Fulton, Woodman (to a degree) and Bidwell late on was up to scratch.
If they had been aiming to miss Woodman rather than hit him the score could have been embarrassing.
Cooper spineless? Yes, because he either didn't have the bottle or nous to make the changes needed.

Swansea City 1 Brentford 1

Killing you ain't it...

 

[Cinio Dydd Sul]

Yep. I wouldn't say keeping 2 forwards on the pitch when we go down to 10 men is spineless and defensive. We set up identically to how we normally do, but Brentford pushed their full backs up and played direct whenever there was space in behind, and that took Bids and Connor out of the game from an attacking point of view.

Probably the only thing I would have changed in the lineup would have been Latibeaudiere in for Naughton. I'm not saying this because of the sending off; I've always felt Naughton slows us down too much and offers less defensively than any of the CBs. He's very much backup quality for me these days.

You are right - that wasn't spineless .... it was clueless.
Neither Lowe nor Ayew were having any impact on the game and we were getting battered and only the work of Cabango, Guehi, Fulton, Woodman (to a degree) and Bidwell late on was up to scratch.
If they had been aiming to miss Woodman rather than hit him the score could have been embarrassing.
Cooper spineless? Yes, because he either didn't have the bottle or nous to make the changes needed.

I know you probably won't answer this because you never do when challenged.

So are you implying that Lowe who's been in phenomenal form and or Ayew who's out craftiest player should have been taken off?!?

What changes exactly? That was our best side available (Bennett aside) and certainly the best shape. Do you think we should have been experimenting with our established formation with the score so evenly poised against an obviously dangerous side? Do we have even have the players to change the system now?

 

[bakajack]

The red card was entirely on Cooper, I am a fan of his but I could see myself that Naughton and perhaps also Fulton needed replacing at or just after half time. Naughton is not a centre back and when we have two fit centre backs it does make you wonder why he was playing in a position he was obviously struggling in from the first minute.

Half time should have seen Naughton off for Bennet and maybe with 20-25 mins to go replace Fulton for Morris with Hourihane moving slightly deeper to have more influence on the game and allow for a front three with Morris and Lowe working the channels and Ayew running the show from the centre. To get a point was fortunate in a game where we were comprehensively outplayed for the vast majority of the match.

Well they do say that the sign of a championship or promotion winning team is picking up points when you are playing poorly.

 

[Fireboy]

The red card was entirely on Cooper, I am a fan of his but I could see myself that Naughton and perhaps also Fulton needed replacing at or just after half time. Naughton is not a centre back and when we have two fit centre backs it does make you wonder why he was playing in a position he was obviously struggling in from the first minute.

Half time should have seen Naughton off for Bennet and maybe with 20-25 mins to go replace Fulton for Morris with Hourihane moving slightly deeper to have more influence on the game and allow for a front three with Morris and Lowe working the channels and Ayew running the show from the centre. To get a point was fortunate in a game where we were comprehensively outplayed for the vast majority of the match.

Well they do say that the sign of a championship or promotion winning team is picking up points when you are playing poorly.

Your last sentence speaks volumes.

 

[A4Jack]

The red card was entirely on Cooper, I am a fan of his but I could see myself that Naughton and perhaps also Fulton needed replacing at or just after half time. Naughton is not a centre back and when we have two fit centre backs it does make you wonder why he was playing in a position he was obviously struggling in from the first minute.

Half time should have seen Naughton off for Bennet and maybe with 20-25 mins to go replace Fulton for Morris with Hourihane moving slightly deeper to have more influence on the game and allow for a front three with Morris and Lowe working the channels and Ayew running the show from the centre. To get a point was fortunate in a game where we were comprehensively outplayed for the vast majority of the match.

Well they do say that the sign of a championship or promotion winning team is picking up points when you are playing poorly.

Your last sentence speaks volumes.

In the cold light of day that is right. At the moment we are on average for 87pts based on what we have achieved this year without ever really hitting top form consistently. We have a knack of getting results where is needed.

Brentford on the other hand lost two points when they were nailed on for a win. Imagine the uproar if the shoe was on the other foot!

 

[PSumbler]

It's lucky we are 2nd in the league mind - imagine the pelters our manager would get if we were 3rd...

 

[Longlostjack]

The red card was entirely on Cooper, I am a fan of his but I could see myself that Naughton and perhaps also Fulton needed replacing at or just after half time. Naughton is not a centre back and when we have two fit centre backs it does make you wonder why he was playing in a position he was obviously struggling in from the first minute.

Half time should have seen Naughton off for Bennet and maybe with 20-25 mins to go replace Fulton for Morris with Hourihane moving slightly deeper to have more influence on the game and allow for a front three with Morris and Lowe working the channels and Ayew running the show from the centre. To get a point was fortunate in a game where we were comprehensively outplayed for the vast majority of the match.

Well they do say that the sign of a championship or promotion winning team is picking up points when you are playing poorly.

Maybe have been just careful with Bennet and hamstring.

 

[ABSwan]

I'm amazed at how many think we should be automatically substituting at half time any players booked in the first half.

 

[swan65split]

Best thing to come out of last night, is we have a team , that doesnt give in,

Not like previous years.

 

[monmouth]

Maybe have been just careful with Bennet and hamstring.

Was Hamstring on the bench? Is he one of our youngsters?