The Pope

[Neath_Jack]

How am I crying? I simply think you constantly talk a load of bollocks. That’s my opinion and you’re a bit of a dick with it. So I call you out.

Rather than attack my post you have a childish quip at me. I know that you know you’re not intelligent enough to get one over on me and that really hurts you, it’s evident whenever you reply to me.

 

[rockinj]

Rather than attack my post you have a childish quip at me. I know that you know you’re not intelligent enough to get one over on me and that really hurts you, it’s evident whenever you reply to me.

You keep believing that mate. Get yourself down to spoons lad.

 

[Swanjaxs]

And there we are nihilism, let’s make the cathedral a giant Wetherspoons.

This is the sort of World Trump would love. The reverse it’s a wonderful life.

Rampant consumerism, everyone out for themselves. Family unit argh who cares.

Well we’re already getting there aren’t we and doesn’t society feel so happy now.

Nevermind cheap beer here we come lads. What a wonderful life.

I'll drink to that! fuck religion

 

[Neath_Jack]

You keep believing that mate. Get yourself down to spoons lad.

Why would I go to spoons boy? I don’t drink. Have another go.

 

[monmouth]

That’s all religion does, especially now, is sew hatred and division.

And extract money from people desperate to believe in something greater than themselves.

Thats the negatives, but I’ve also seen it do a lot of good and bring a lot of comfort to good people that I think it would be cruel to deny them. That can be multiplied by millions in all the religions with none of the downsides, and it provides most a code of peaceful and caring civilisation that actually works for those millions.

I have become agnostic because of that, rather than atheist, as I would love them to be partially right and there to be some greater point to our scrabbling pathetic lives. I don’t really think so, and it’s odds against, but I, and all of you, don’t know. We’ll all soon find out anyway, so why sweat it.

As to religion starting wars and sowing division, yes it does, but that’s just a means to an end. I’d say it’s tribalism that does that and if we don’t have religion we’d have countries, counties, villages, tribes, cultures, colours, minorities to replace it with the tribal hate. Or football,

 

[Darran]

That’s all religion does, especially now, is sew hatred and division.

 

[rockinj]

And extract money from people desperate to believe in something greater than themselves.

Thats the negatives, but I’ve also seen it do a lot of good and bring a lot of comfort to good people that I think it would be cruel to deny them. That can be multiplied by millions in all the religions with none of the downsides, and it provides most a code of peaceful and caring civilisation that actually works for those millions.

I have become agnostic because of that, rather than atheist, as I would love them to be partially right and there to be some greater point to our scrabbling pathetic lives. I don’t really think so, and it’s odds against, but I, and all of you, don’t know. We’ll all soon find out anyway, so why sweat it.

As to religion starting wars and sowing division, yes it does, but that’s just a means to an end. I’d say it’s tribalism that does that and if we don’t have religion we’d have countries, counties, villages, tribes, cultures, colours, minorities to replace it with the tribal hate. Or football,

Excellent post

 

[Neath_Jack]

And extract money from people desperate to believe in something greater than themselves.

Thats the negatives, but I’ve also seen it do a lot of good and bring a lot of comfort to good people that I think it would be cruel to deny them. That can be multiplied by millions in all the religions with none of the downsides, and it provides most a code of peaceful and caring civilisation that actually works for those millions.

I have become agnostic because of that, rather than atheist, as I would love them to be partially right and there to be some greater point to our scrabbling pathetic lives. I don’t really think so, and it’s odds against, but I, and all of you, don’t know. We’ll all soon find out anyway, so why sweat it.

As to religion starting wars and sowing division, yes it does, but that’s just a means to an end. I’d say it’s tribalism that does that and if we don’t have religion we’d have countries, counties, villages, tribes, cultures, colours, minorities to replace it with the tribal hate. Or football,

Let let people believe in leprechauns instead, peace loving little darlings.

People turn to religion in times of sadness etc because they’ve had it forced into their heads since childhood. Religion preys on those looking for ‘something’.

Get shot if it and you immediately put people like Yaxley out of business , never mind wars.

Are cults okay in your book, or are they bad because you’ve been told to think of them as being bad? I wonder why the main sky pixie worshipers want you to believe thay?

Show me one shred of proved evidence that any of the sky pixies ever existed and we can go again.

 

[monmouth]

Let let people believe in leprechauns instead, peace loving little darlings.

People turn to religion in times of sadness etc because they’ve had it forced into their heads since childhood. Religion preys on those looking for ‘something’.

Get shot if it and you immediately put people like Yaxley out of business , never mind wars.

Are cults okay in your book, or are they bad because you’ve been told to think of them as being bad? I wonder why the main sky pixie worshipers want you to believe thay?

Show me one shred of proved evidence that any of the sky pixies ever existed and we can go again.

I don’t think I’m disagreeing with you really overall, but if leprechauns make people feel happier, let them believe in them. Do you really think Yaxley wouldn’t find other reasons to sow hate if there was no religion? I don’t believe in any god if that’s what you mean, They are, as you say, sky pixies. I’m not agnostic about that.

 

[Swanjaxs]

Let let people believe in leprechauns instead, peace loving little darlings.

People turn to religion in times of sadness etc because they’ve had it forced into their heads since childhood. Religion preys on those looking for ‘something’.

Get shot if it and you immediately put people like Yaxley out of business , never mind wars.

Are cults okay in your book, or are they bad because you’ve been told to think of them as being bad? I wonder why the main sky pixie worshipers want you to believe thay?

Show me one shred of proved evidence that any of the sky pixies ever existed and we can go again.

Word for word a fantastic post my good friend

 

[monmouth]

even this thread has got tribal. Let’s have a war.

 

[MrSwerve]

I went though a stage of being a bit of a ‘militant’ atheist, but grew out of it a bit. It’s easy to come across condescending. Since becoming a parent and as my parents get older, I’m probably more of an agnostic now rather than atheist (we all are, at the end of the day). I’ll never believe in a ‘Sky god’, or whatever, but I just let people live and believe what they want. As long as they don’t cause harm in the name of religion.

 

[Neath_Jack]

I went though a stage of being a bit of a ‘militant’ atheist, but grew out of it a bit. It’s easy to come across condescending. Since becoming a parent and as my parents get older, I’m probably more of an agnostic now rather than atheist (we all are, at the end of the day). I’ll never believe in a ‘Sky god’, or whatever, but I just let people live and believe what they want. As long as they don’t cause harm in the name of religion.

Your last line, it’s always caused harm and always will. Probably more so now than ever.

 

[Neath_Jack]

I don’t think I’m disagreeing with you really overall, but if leprechauns make people feel happier, let them believe in them. Do you really think Yaxley wouldn’t find other reasons to sow hate if there was no religion? I don’t believe in any god if that’s what you mean, They are, as you say, sky pixies. I’m not agnostic about that.

I’ve no doubt he and his ilk would. But it’s the same argument for legalising and controlling drugs. Yes there’d be some that would abuse it, but it would remove a significant amount of the shite.

I’ve obviously not been in school for decades, but I’d like to think that kids are no longer forced to sing hymns every day and would love to see the day that religious ‘education’ is wiped from the curriculum for ever. Replace it with something useful. As a country we’re already growing out of religion thankfully.

 

[MrSwerve]

Your last line, it’s always caused harm and always will. Probably more so now than ever.

Possibly, probably…it’s also been a force for a lot of good as previously mentioned. Doesn’t affect the fact that it’s all likely bollocks, mind.