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US Election results thread

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Dr. Winston said:
Best_loser said:
He won't get 75 million supporting a new party, his base are 30 million , most of them are not natural republican voters, they are the fringe of white supremicists , evangelical loons and conspiracy nuts

If he does start his own party he will split the vote, good news for the dems

In much the same way as the people calling for Corbyn to start a New New Labour party would be handing perpetual power to the Tories.

Which is a failing of FPTP really. There should be no reason why there couldn't be a centre-left party led by Starmer and a social democrat party led by Corbyn. If we had proper PR one of them could form a government with the support of the other.

There is precedent in the US for this - Teddy Roosevelt started his Progressive Party after a split from the Republicans, all it did was give Woodrow Wilson a massive win that he never would have achieved if his opponents hadn't split - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1912_United_States_presidential_election
 
JackFish said:
There should be no reason why there couldn't be a centre-left party led by Starmer and a social democrat party led by Corbyn. If we had proper PR one of them could form a government with the support of the other.

Not entirely sure that a party led by Corbyn would have any interest in working with one led by Starmer, or vice versa. Too many crazies on the Corbyn side.

A Starmer govt would be more likely to join with the Lib Dems IMO, with Corbs leading a minority protest rump.
 
Dr. Winston said:
JackFish said:
There should be no reason why there couldn't be a centre-left party led by Starmer and a social democrat party led by Corbyn. If we had proper PR one of them could form a government with the support of the other.

Not entirely sure that a party led by Corbyn would have any interest in working with one led by Starmer, or vice versa. Too many crazies on the Corbyn side.

A Starmer govt would be more likely to join with the Lib Dems IMO, with Corbs leading a minority protest rump.

If you look at Spain, that's exactly what we have here now, a coalition government with the socialist PSOE (eqiuvalent of Starmer's Labour) governing with junior partner Podemos (a hard left party which would be the Corbyn equivalent). In parliament, they are usually supported in votes by three or four fringe nationalist parties from Catalonia, Basque Country, etc, the equivalent of the SNP and Plaid.
It will never happen in the UK because you'll never get rid of the first past the post system, specially if Scotland manages to gain independence.
 
Dr. Winston said:
Best_loser said:
He won't get 75 million supporting a new party, his base are 30 million , most of them are not natural republican voters, they are the fringe of white supremicists , evangelical loons and conspiracy nuts

If he does start his own party he will split the vote, good news for the dems

In much the same way as the people calling for Corbyn to start a New New Labour party would be handing perpetual power to the Tories.

A corbyn led independent party would have about as much impact as the Socialist Workers Party or Respect.
 
I don’t understand why this inauguration is happening? What about the markets? They were narrowing mun. There was a shift. And then on election night it was in the bag for Trump? And then there were all those court cases they were losing on purpose so they could get to the Supreme Court which would surely overturn the result? And what about all that evidence on YouTube? WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE EVIDENCE IN ALL THIS?

Confused of Penllergaer.
 
exiledclaseboy said:
I don’t understand why this inauguration is happening? What about the markets? They were narrowing mun. There was a shift. And then on election night it was in the bag for Trump? And then there were all those court cases they were losing on purpose so they could get to the Supreme Court which would surely overturn the result? And what about all that evidence on YouTube? WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE EVIDENCE IN ALL THIS?

Confused of Penllergaer.

JFK Jr has something big planned for 12 pm Eastern, trust.
 
:D The guy doing the voice over is practically in tears :D , 'the greatest president this country has ever had'
 
exiledclaseboy said:
I don’t understand why this inauguration is happening? What about the markets? They were narrowing mun. There was a shift. And then on election night it was in the bag for Trump? And then there were all those court cases they were losing on purpose so they could get to the Supreme Court which would surely overturn the result? And what about all that evidence on YouTube? WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE EVIDENCE IN ALL THIS?

Confused of Penllergaer.

You forgot to mention that the election was stolen from ‘We The People’.

Tummer is convinced that the US now has a president who is simultaneously a puppet of China, and a commie.

Tummer’s sister btw has written some excellent pieces for the Washington Post about all this. Their family gatherings must be a hoot.
 
Londonlisa2001 said:
exiledclaseboy said:
I don’t understand why this inauguration is happening? What about the markets? They were narrowing mun. There was a shift. And then on election night it was in the bag for Trump? And then there were all those court cases they were losing on purpose so they could get to the Supreme Court which would surely overturn the result? And what about all that evidence on YouTube? WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE EVIDENCE IN ALL THIS?

Confused of Penllergaer.

You forgot to mention that the election was stolen from ‘We The People’.

Tummer is convinced that the US now has a president who is simultaneously a puppet of China, and a commie.

Tummer’s sister btw has written some excellent pieces for the Washington Post about all this. Their family gatherings must be a hoot.

wait, who is Tummer's sister?
 
AceJack said:
Londonlisa2001 said:
You forgot to mention that the election was stolen from ‘We The People’.

Tummer is convinced that the US now has a president who is simultaneously a puppet of China, and a commie.

Tummer’s sister btw has written some excellent pieces for the Washington Post about all this. Their family gatherings must be a hoot.

wait, who is Tummer's sister?

Karen Tumulty of the Washington Post. Tummer has previously made that public a few times btw so I am not divulging info that he wishes to be kept private.
 
Londonlisa2001 said:
AceJack said:
wait, who is Tummer's sister?

Karen Tumulty of the Washington Post. Tummer has previously made that public a few times btw so I am not divulging info that he wishes to be kept private.

Oh you're kidding? I read her articles all the time and I had no idea they were related. Well that's quite a divergence.
 

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