Grimes...

[CygnusX1]

This thread is now as tedious, never ending and ultimately pointless as your average Matt Grimes performance.

Yep. Tbh, I don’t get the love or hate for Grimes. He’s a half decent Championship player who isn’t great and isn’t shit.

He’s capable of scoring in the top corner from outside the box once in a blue moon, and he’s also capable of sucking the enjoyment out of an orgasm.

 

[Ringwood]

It's funny watching the CB Grimes when it's not your team

 

[exiledclaseboy]

He’s a half decent Championship player who isn’t great and isn’t shit.

Nailed it. If you looked up “nondescript” in the dictionary the definition should be accompanied by a photo of Matt Grimes. See also the definition for the term “stupid beard”.

 

[LeonWasTheDogs]

Yet Lampard is full of praise for him according to an article floating around....best bit of business we did selling him.

What does he know though, eh? I’d rather listen to some clueless feckwits on jack army.net

Sounds like Sunderland have just stolen this.

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

Fines to miss a pelanty

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

Grimes even

 

[stevethejack]

See also the definition for the term “stupid beard”.

Statty Grimes has his plans in place for the Championship Play Off Final weekend.

 

[ajacks]

This particular plum deals in facts - so I see your plum and raise you a turnip. By statistical definition the likes of Lampard would be more likely injured than a defensive midfielder.
I get you passionately dislike Matt Grimes - but don't blind yourself to his amazing availability statistics, otherwise you will look a bit of a errr nana

In soccer, midfielders and defenders are most often injured. Studies have shown that midfielders experience the highest injury frequency, followed by defenders. These positions require high-speed activities and intense gameplay, potentially increasing their risk of injury during the later stages of a game.
Midfielders experienced the highest injury frequency (43.6%), followed by defenders (30.0%), forwards (17.9%), and goalkeepers (8.6%)

At some point I have to accept that trying to even make a point to you is like playing chess with a pigeon. You'll always flap your wings, knock over the king and claim you won.

Problem is with all of your points is that you cherry pick your stats to make out hes better than he is. Commentator tonight on radio "Why's he slowing the ball down there all the time, theres overload on the wings". Tell me where you can draw a "fact" (see also running the numbers again until they meet your hypothesis) from that objective viewpoint that most held. You'll then see your issue, what most fans have a gripe with him for is something that cant be measured in xG or anyother meaningless number you spout.

 

[Jackareme]

At some point I have to accept that trying to even make a point to you is like playing chess with a pigeon. You'll always flap your wings, knock over the king and claim you won.

Problem is with all of your points is that you cherry pick your stats to make out hes better than he is. Commentator tonight on radio "Why's he slowing the ball down there all the time, theres overload on the wings". Tell me where you can draw a "fact" (see also running the numbers again until they meet your hypothesis) from that objective viewpoint that most held. You'll then see your issue, what most fans have a gripe with him for is something that cant be measured in xG or anyother meaningless number you spout.

I am not saying that he is Messi - he is a championship player at best. However, he was being dissed for being available every week- and I take exception to that. Every club needs these and he is objectively very good at what he does - you just don’t like what it is he offers..
As someone said above - what does Frank Lampard know that even approaches the football knowledge of a keyboard warrior?
I have tried to argue with facts, and that is not flapping wings and knocking over chess pieces.
Shunning facts in favour of personal opinions and then calling people plums is an alternative approach for sure..

I will bow out of this debate, as my old dad advised - it is never a good idea to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man!
I am off to get a night cap - Nos da!

 

[Swansea93]

Seems his wife caused some stir tonight online, stating players are leaving us, we forced Grimes out etc, ain’t seen it myself but no doubt someone has.

 

[swansvalleyjack]

I started this thread way back with an insightful observation by a Coventry fan on Grimes' style of football.

Tbh, I think the thread has run its course now. Getting a bit tedious like a lot of his play.

He's gone, he was a decent servant for us, mainly playing to the orders of Martin and Williams. And I for one won't boo him when he next visits us in the Championship.

But on a lighter note, here's some Coventry fans thoughts on some songs for him

1
"Sideways and backwards everywhere he goes, sideways and backwards everywhere he goes, everywhere he goes"

2
"When you score you make the city sing
Matty on the wing
Matty Grimes on the wing
Every time you’re on the ball we know
There's gonna be a goal
Our superstar from Exeter"

Grimes on the wing . Now that's something none of us have ever thought about

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

I am not saying that he is Messi - he is a championship player at best. However, he was being dissed for being available every week- and I take exception to that. Every club needs these and he is objectively very good at what he does - you just don’t like what it is he offers..
As someone said above - what does Frank Lampard know that even approaches the football knowledge of a keyboard warrior?
I have tried to argue with facts, and that is not flapping wings and knocking over chess pieces.
Shunning facts in favour of personal opinions and then calling people plums is an alternative approach for sure..

I will bow out of this debate, as my old dad advised - it is never a good idea to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man!
I am off to get a night cap - Nos da!

People understandably get frustrated when posters like yourself use statistics to champion a player whom everyone else (I’d say 99.5%) of fans have seen his lack of impact in the games he’s participated in. And the difference in the side after he left. A lot of people were fooled and bought into the “he was the most consistent” fallacy. None of the managers who he was “first name on the team sheet” ever showed any interest in taking him with them after leaving. Fulham (amongst the other 90 clubs) wouldn’t even take him on a free!
That tells me all I need to know.

 

[TrallwnJAC]

Seems his wife caused some stir tonight online, stating players are leaving us, we forced Grimes out etc, ain’t seen it myself but no doubt someone has.

Wish I’d taken screenshots, she let rip on the OnlySwans instagram and made herself look ridiculous.

She was even banging on about how he helped us win our “precious double double that we always bang on about”.

My attitude toward grimes leaving was this, all the best to him, take the cash while you can, football is a business in both ends of the spectrum players and directors

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

This particular plum deals in facts - so I see your plum and raise you a turnip. By statistical definition the likes of Lampard would be more likely injured than a defensive midfielder.
I get you passionately dislike Matt Grimes - but don't blind yourself to his amazing availability statistics, otherwise you will look a bit of a errr nana

In soccer, midfielders and defenders are most often injured. Studies have shown that midfielders experience the highest injury frequency, followed by defenders. These positions require high-speed activities and intense gameplay, potentially increasing their risk of injury during the later stages of a game.
Midfielders experienced the highest injury frequency (43.6%), followed by defenders (30.0%), forwards (17.9%), and goalkeepers (8.6%)

Fact - it’s easy to avoid injury as a footballer by not going in for tackles.

 

[SwanseaJack]