Builthjack
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Powys new cases have gone from zero a few weeks ago, to around 30 a day and rising.
Get that food in folks. It's around the corner .
Get that food in folks. It's around the corner .
Heinrich Himmler said:Why do you keep comparing Sweden with the UK, why are you going back in time for your data, why do you not mention the serious amount of deaths that are going to occur due to the neglect of other illnesses, the current situation is a country that never locked down, have saved at a least half million deaths due to continuing normal health care across the board, and now have one of the lowest infection rates in Europe, and only yesterday the uk chief medical officer has come out and stated that if the hospitals are not opened up and allowed to allow people to early diagnosis and treatment asap for all the serious illnesses out there the death rates with be 10 fold more than that of Covid deaths, a ticking time bomb so to speak, so for a guy who spends vast amounts of typing time spilling out complicated jargon most of which is utter nonsense and scaremongering the real picture of things seem to just sail straight over your head.Professor said:Running at around 200 new cases a day- which would be around 1300 if Sweden had the same population as the U.K.-where we were a few days ago. Also was running at a higher level than rest of Europe well into August. Of course population density is relevant. You are just too thick to understand that the more spaced out a population the less frequent the contact, the less likely the transmission.
But then since you glorify a perpetrator of genocide,
What would you know or care about people? Only the rancid right seem to think Sweden has been successful in its experiment.
Scotia said:Something has to be done to enforce social distancing. I've had enough now.
I am completely behind opening up the economy as much as is possible - whilst maintaining social distancing. I love a trip to the pub and go to the gym 6 days a week. I'm not too concerend about catching the virus but don't want to pass it on. I am taking this completely seriously and so is the gym I'm a member of, but I'm completley fed up of those who aren't.
I'm forever seeing fitness classes on Instagram of local gyms completey ignoring social distancing - Group photos with arms around each other, sharing equipment, personal trainers hugging clients etc, etc It is out there in public but nothing happens to them. I'd be happy to name them.
Photos of a packed queue at Coyote ugly in Cardiff - nothing really happens to them. It's not just the under 30's either my local social club has done sweet FA really, a track and trace book that nobody uses, and ignored one way system and pensioners sitting next to each other as they did in early March.
We are sleep walking in to another Spike.
LeonWasTheDog's said:Scotia said:Something has to be done to enforce social distancing. I've had enough now.
I am completely behind opening up the economy as much as is possible - whilst maintaining social distancing. I love a trip to the pub and go to the gym 6 days a week. I'm not too concerend about catching the virus but don't want to pass it on. I am taking this completely seriously and so is the gym I'm a member of, but I'm completley fed up of those who aren't.
I'm forever seeing fitness classes on Instagram of local gyms completey ignoring social distancing - Group photos with arms around each other, sharing equipment, personal trainers hugging clients etc, etc It is out there in public but nothing happens to them. I'd be happy to name them.
Photos of a packed queue at Coyote ugly in Cardiff - nothing really happens to them. It's not just the under 30's either my local social club has done sweet FA really, a track and trace book that nobody uses, and ignored one way system and pensioners sitting next to each other as they did in early March.
We are sleep walking in to another Spike.
If you wanted to draw out the effects of this as long as possible for maximum disruption on people's lives and livelihoods, I couldn't think of a better way to do it that what we're doing now. We've ballsed up our response in so many different ways. Government too late to react and then contradictory advice/poor communication and trashes confidence by disregarding their own advice; people too susceptible to crackpots and libertarians on the internet who think it's a hoax or who are playing a culture war over masks, etc; awful organisation of inadequate testing facilities, etc.
We don't seem to be able to learn lessons from those (mostly Asian countries) who've done well: act early, hit it hard with a combination of strict social distancing, masks, movement restrictions and border controls. Then you can get back to normal more quickly. instead we've got this half-arsed fudge of a response that will see this drag out for bloody ages. We're going to normalise the presence of coronavirus rather than try to eradicate it.
Not any more they now have one of the lowest, catch up mun, you read something a while back and you must be having trouble adjusting your mindset to the present.controversial_jack said:Heinrich Himmler said:Why do you keep comparing Sweden with the UK, why are you going back in time for your data, why do you not mention the serious amount of deaths that are going to occur due to the neglect of other illnesses, the current situation is a country that never locked down, have saved at a least half million deaths due to continuing normal health care across the board, and now have one of the lowest infection rates in Europe, and only yesterday the uk chief medical officer has come out and stated that if the hospitals are not opened up and allowed to allow people to early diagnosis and treatment asap for all the serious illnesses out there the death rates with be 10 fold more than that of Covid deaths, a ticking time bomb so to speak, so for a guy who spends vast amounts of typing time spilling out complicated jargon most of which is utter nonsense and scaremongering the real picture of things seem to just sail straight over your head.
Sweden has one of the highest infection rates in Europe. Far higher than it's neighbouring countries, and higher than ours. Sweden may not have had a formal lockdown, but it's inhabitants are more self disciplined than Brits and there was no need to make it formal
controversial_jack said:It was higher for a long time, and it's still higher than Norway, Finland , Denmark and the other nearby Baltic states.Overall it's much higher
controversial_jack said:Not compared to neighbouring countries who did lockdown
jack123 said:Iv'e had enough of this BS!!!! The restrictions being imposed on us, are IMO without valid reason, next step curfews and restricting alcohol sales, then what ever other rubbish they come up with.. Cases this, cases that.. Iv'e been reading a bit today about this PCR test, in the past I have read about it was never meant for this! Now in the last few days, I'm reading from many, many people that the way they conduct the tests, they could find everybody positive if they wanted to!
I haven't read it all, because there are pages and pages of the stuff, but it's to do with the amount of cycles they are using 45? I believe.