Has he gone? Or if not when will it happen?

[ARQS]

Of course he can carry on, but he’ll need to win more games than he has, the team will need to play better and differently and he probably now has very little margin for error with the club or the fans. So in essence, he’s done, as he’s a ten a penny painting by numbers manager. The only real question is how much it will cost the club and when. I expect him to grovel about how much he loves the cloob and the JA, and talk about ‘misunderstandings’ ‘unfounded rumours’ and ‘context’ in his presser.

I’d think he certainly won’t have any role in any January transfers.

Oh, and, yes, he can’t lose at the piggery.

I know we can't really predict results in football and we could be sitting here in a month having gone on an amazing run and having made some positive January signings and everyone being happy.

However, from an objective perspective, we have a tough game tomorrow, a tough FA Cup trip, Cardiff away (who seem to be improving the last couple of games), Sheffield United and then Norwich away. I don't think many fans are expecting much from those games.

So we could quite easily be going into February out of the cup, defeated at Cardiff and having taken only a small amount of points elsewhere. If so, the heat could really be on him.

 

[AusinIsOurHero]

As Monmouth said, unless he starts winning more games, the owners - regardless of whether or not they want a new man in, will make the decision regardless.
We can't have (m)any more Hull or Portsmouth type performances without serious questions being asked.

 

[SwanseaJack]

Based on some of what people have written or said over the last few days it does seem as if a lot of people actually want him to stay and they've just been reactive to the pompey score (understandable).

I personally think he's one of the few good things we have got going for us right now, but I wouldn't cry my eyes out if he left. Say he does, who can we reasonably expect to take over in what would be an already dead campaign and with us arguably not improving year on year......

 

[Swans Jack]

Jesus. One minute he is gone and the next he stays. Alot of rumours but I think he'll stay but it a ticking bomb. Only matter of time.

Luke Williams holds talks with Swans hierarchy as West Brom speculation swirls

The Swans boss now looks set to stay, despite speculation linking him with the vacant West Bromwich Albion job

www.walesonline.co.uk

 

[LaJollaJack]

You’d think they’d do it in the summer and not half way through a season.

Not when Williams has recently shown he’s as egotistical, self indulgent and as duplicitous as is his failed fraud mentor

He’s recently been solely focused on bumping our (HIS) possession stats- at all costs, the selfish sod

 

[AusinIsOurHero]

Based on some of what people have written or said over the last few days it does seem as if a lot of people actually want him to stay and they've just been reactive to the pompey score (understandable).

I personally think he's one of the few good things we have got going for us right now, but I wouldn't cry my eyes out if he left. Say he does, who can we reasonably expect to take over in what would be an already dead campaign and with us arguably not improving year on year......

It's not exactly a thrilling list but I'd take any of
Mowbray
Robbins
Schumacher

or look abroad.

We've gone down the 'possession based', young attacking coach route several times now & it just hasn't worked for me. Club needs a new approach imo.

 

[monmouth]

I know this has been said. I don’t rate the bloke, but I’m not sure there’s much he can do anyway to save himself. He’s at the mercy of the feckless, sackless bunch of lazy jokers on the pitch. They will probably turn up for a game or two (tomorrow and Piggery?) and then have a week or two off. They’ve been doing it for three years now, averaging 35-38% win rates. Does he even have any control over them? Given what happened to Duff, could anyone get to grips with them? The ‘club hierarchy’ need to look deeper than Williams, whatever his limitations. There are a lot that are too comfortable here with being mid table on fat contracts.

 

[SwanseaJack]

It's not exactly a thrilling list but I'd take any of
Mowbray
Robbins
Schumacher

or look abroad.

We've gone down the 'possession based', young attacking coach route several times now & it just hasn't worked for me. Club needs a new approach imo.

Thats fair enough, its also obvious that football is/has moved away from the possession at all costs strategy. You only have to watch the top clubs to realise they've all adopted a move the ball forwards as quick as you can with intent mentality.

Even the lesser clubs in the top leagues now have a low block and try to hit as fast as they can on the counter, we are just a bit pedestrian right now. But we tried shaking things up previously and that didn't work (whether that was down to the wrong person at the helm or the dressing room/squad being unwilling to adapt is unknown).

I still think we should keep Williams for another year and see if bringing in his own players, and not some shitty statistical Watson signing, will help

 

[SwanseaJack]

I know this has been said. I don’t rate the bloke, but I’m not sure there’s much he can do anyway to save himself. He’s at the mercy of the feckless, sackless bunch of lazy jokers on the pitch. They will probably turn up for a game or two (tomorrow and Piggery?) and then have a week or two off. They’ve been doing it for three years now, averaging 35-38% win rates. Does he even have any control over them? Given what happened to Duff, could anyone get to grips with them? The ‘club hierarchy’ need to look deeper than Williams, whatever his limitations. There are a lot that are too comfortable here with being mid table on fat contracts.

Agree with this, and it starts with shipping on Grimes or giving the captaincy to someone else (Darling comes to mind, bloke isn't afraid to actually shout at people)

 

[Swansea93]

Tony Mowbray
Knutsen
Liam Rosenior
Slavisa Jokanovic
Will Still
Jimmy Thelin
Gary O Neil
Igor Tudor
Gio Van Bronckhorst
Rob Page

Plenty of credible names out there and some we could be ambitious with.

 

[WentToSchoolWith]

Looking on WBA forums, they have a few reputable sources that have spread similar information, and I think this is most likely the accurate story:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1875121485947281811

Luke himself hasn't spoken with WBA, but his agent certainly sharked it round. How committed LW was to either project, I don't know, but he pretty clearly had his head turned

 

[T8AD365]

It's not exactly a thrilling list but I'd take any of
Mowbray
Robbins
Schumacher

or look abroad.

We've gone down the 'possession based', young attacking coach route several times now & it just hasn't worked for me. Club needs a new approach imo.

Not sure he'll be available for a while, he hasn't even taken charge of his first game at Stoke yet

 

[AusinIsOurHero]

Not sure he'll be available for a while, he hasn't even taken charge of his first game at Stoke yet

Ah ok!! Missed that he'd gone there
Although no one last's long at Stoke, that might be a long shot.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

I know this has been said. I don’t rate the bloke, but I’m not sure there’s much he can do anyway to save himself. He’s at the mercy of the feckless, sackless bunch of lazy jokers on the pitch. They will probably turn up for a game or two (tomorrow and Piggery?) and then have a week or two off. They’ve been doing it for three years now, averaging 35-38% win rates. Does he even have any control over them? Given what happened to Duff, could anyone get to grips with them? The ‘club hierarchy’ need to look deeper than Williams, whatever his limitations. There are a lot that are too comfortable here with being mid table on fat contracts.

You're on exactly the same page as me.

The main problem at the club is the dressing room, and has been for several seasons.

I remember when Cooper left and Martin came in, there were comments from Grimes along the lines of, I love this appointment, this is great, I'm on board again now, but if Cooper had stayed I don't think I'd have hung about much longer. As if his endorsement of the manager was all important, and as if the world revolves around him.

We've retained too many mediocre players, and given them far too much status and power at the club. It needs sorting out. They think they run the club.

Maybe a Mowbray type - long in the tooth, won't tolerate any bullshit - is what we could really do with, instead of another happy clappy rookie manager who will simply indulge more of this nonsense. (But I'd do it in summer not now).

 

[3swan]

Looking on WBA forums, they have a few reputable sources that have spread similar information, and I think this is most likely the accurate story:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1875121485947281811

Luke himself hasn't spoken with WBA, but his agent certainly sharked it round. How committed LW was to either project, I don't know, but he pretty clearly had his head turned

That sounds very plausible from their side.
The unanswered question is how our owners will perceive the issue