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See now I think Cabango is the worst of the lot. Slow, cumbersome, awful on the ball, cannot read danger - he only gets a lot of slack purely for his goals against Cardiff.
In terms of ability Wood is probably better than Cabango. In terms of what he's shown this season in particular he's been very poor, poorer than Cabango in my opinion. Never in my days have I seen a defender play poorer than he did down in Bournemouth. If we rejected anything upwards of £2m from Southampton for him it was a ridiculous decision.
 
The game has moved on... your defence now needs all the qualities the midfielders have. Bit of pace, vision and a decent first touch.
 
So, no proof at all then. Just fabricated nonsense. Thought as much.
Given the rest of his stuff, I’m surprised you were in any doubt.

He’ll be along with a new user name when this one inevitably fizzles out. Sad really.
 
Given the rest of his stuff, I’m surprised you were in any doubt.

He’ll be along with a new user name when this one inevitably fizzles out. Sad really.
Well said, thought was just me wondering bout that 🤡
 
See now I think Cabango is the worst of the lot. Slow, cumbersome, awful on the ball, cannot read danger - he only gets a lot of slack purely for his goals against Cardiff.
Players have different skill sets so they can have good and bad games depending on how those skills match up against their opponents and how the manager chooses to deploy them. I wouldn't call Cabango a versatile player but given a job that suits him he can do a decent job. I'll give you 3 examples, 2 where he was very good and one where he was awful.

Home v Blackburn 2 years ago. We were 1-0 up at 1/2 time but Manning was sent off early after the break, we took off Obafemi and brought on Ryan Bennett and camped in our own half while Blackburn pumped crosses in as it seemed to be their only tactic. Cabango and Bennett were magnificent and repelled everything thrown at them and we held on for a win.

Home & Away v Barnsley, playoff semis 3 years ago. Guehi and Cabango were an impressively solid partnership in both games but especially in the home leg as Barnsley threw everything at us after getting a goal back to 2-1 with 20 minutes left but we saw the game out with those 2 outstanding and both only 20 years old at that time.

Away v Fulham 09/21 midweek evening game, Martin decided to play Naughton marking Mitrovic in the centre of a 3 with Cabango picking up their speedy left winger Neeskens Kabano or at least trying to. Cabango had no chance against his pace as he'd been given the wrong role and Naughton had no chance against Mitrovic who scored a hat trick as he'd also been given the wrong role. If Cabango had been given the job of marking Mitrovic, he may still have scored but Cabango would have at least made him bloody work for it as he's built for the sort of physical battle you get with Mitro which Naughton clearly wasn't. Naughton would also have struggled with Kabano's pace but being a right back by trade, his positional sense and experience might just have made Kabano's job a little bit more difficult which would have helped Cabango if Mitro had seen less of the ball.
 
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People have short memories, Cabango and Wood were Martin's centre back pairing for that 10 match unbeaten run at the end of last season.
They are not as useless as our fans like to make out....you also have to consider the lack of midfield .....it was better on Saturday with Joe in front of them....but we as fans are always looking for the scapegoat
The slagging off and scapegoating of these two doesn’t sit right with me.
As mentioned, tons of potential, they’re our boys, not on loan, we should be backing them.
There are problems elsewhere on the pitch which are putting them under pressure in my opinion.
Next time one of them gets the ball, have a look at what’s in front of them, specifically if anyone is moving.
 
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The slagging off and scapegoating of these two doesn’t sit right with me.
As mentioned, tons of potential, they’re our boys, not on loan, we should be backing them.
There are problems elsewhere on the pitch which are putting them under pressure in my opinion.
Next time one of them gets the ball, have a look at what’s in front of them, specifically if anyone is moving.
The issue for me in a ball playing sense is that they are always given the ball. I would say our three worst and more risky distributors/ball carriers (Cabango, Wood, Rushworth) get a disproportionate amount of ball. It’s because we have coached to be cowards in midfield that pass backwards and then hide.
 
The issue for me in a ball playing sense is that they are always given the ball. I would say our three worst and more risky distributors/ball carriers (Cabango, Wood, Rushworth) get a disproportionate amount of ball. It’s because we have coached to be cowards in midfield that pass backwards and then hide.
This issue was there under Duff but visible elsewhere. The 3 centre halves would play the ball wide to Tymon or Key and they’d be the ones isolated and with no options.
Don’t like doing this but I’ll give an example, the Ipswich game, 2-1 down, Cabango has the ball, nothing on other than the Polish boy in space out left, Cabango shapes to pass and the lad dropped his head and turned his back. I know I’m not the only one who noticed that.
 
Players have different skill sets so they can have good and bad games depending on how those skills match up against their opponents and how the manager chooses to deploy them. I wouldn't call Cabango a versatile player but given a job that suits him he can do a decent job. I'll give you 3 examples, 2 where he was very good and one where he was awful.

Home v Blackburn 2 years ago. We were 1-0 up at 1/2 time but Manning was sent off early after the break, we took off Obafemi and brought on Ryan Bennett and camped in our own half while Blackburn pumped crosses in as it seemed to be their only tactic. Cabango and Bennett were magnificent and repelled everything thrown at them and we held on for a win.

Home & Away v Barnsley, playoff semis 3 years ago. Guehi and Cabango were an impressively solid partnership in both games but especially in the home leg as Barnsley threw everything at us after getting a goal back to 2-1 with 20 minutes left but we saw the game out with those 2 outstanding and both only 20 years old at that time.

Away v Fulham 09/21 midweek evening game, Martin decided to play Naughton marking Mitrovic in the centre of a 3 with Cabango picking up their speedy left winger Neeskens Kabano or at least trying to. Cabango had no chance against his pace as he'd been given the wrong role and Naughton had no chance against Mitrovic who scored a hat trick as he'd also been given the wrong role. If Cabango had been given the job of marking Mitrovic, he may still have scored but Cabango would have at least made him bloody work for it as he's built for the sort of physical battle you get with Mitro which Naughton clearly wasn't. Naughton would also have struggled with Kabano's pace but being a right back by trade, his positional sense and experience might just have made Kabano's job a little bit more difficult which would have helped Cabango if Mitro had seen less of the ball.
I wouldn't disagree with most of that mate, I'm not saying any of our centre backs don't have at least one positive attribute.

To put it in a Football Manager context maybe, I suppose what I'm saying is you wouldn't give any of them a double figure rating out of 20 for the various different attributes that define a top player, except in maybe 1 or 2 areas. They seriously lack in most of the essentials for their position.

I'm not having a pop at them as such, I think they all try their best, I just think we have to be very honest about how poor a pool of players they are. It's the club's fault they're here to begin with, that's where the real judgement issue is.
 
Just to show some fairness in the debate, it was Cabango's header back across the six yard box that resulted in Eddie's goal v Ipswich (that he almost sliced wide)...
 
Fair play Wood was decent today, looked more assured and played some good passes into Grimes and Allen on the deck for them to set play up, especially first half...
 
Fair play Wood was decent today, looked more assured and played some good passes into Grimes and Allen on the deck for them to set play up, especially first half...
He was, and so was Cabango. Hats off to the pair of them.
 
You are right. Proper centre backs. Tippy tappy is not a strength. Which is fine.
 

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