Williams out

[Skippyjack]

No illusions there mate, just plain facts. Martin was a better coach for us than Duff. Williams is better than Duff. My post-curry farts are better than Duff.

Not according to actual statistics.. he's 1% better, in the grand scheme of things Duff is probably better because he had less games to work with

 

[Smurph]

No illusions there mate, just plain facts. Martin was a better coach for us than Duff. Williams is better than Duff. My post-curry farts are better than Duff.

You've had one too many fist pumps.

 

[Smurph]

Williams has a 30% win rate, Duff had 29% and didn't have as many games and spent far less.. but he's like super Russ In interviews and didn't get booed in a preseason friendly

Modern day versions of the Pied Piper, some people are mesmerised by all these platitudes.

 

[monmouth]

After ten games our record is:

3-3-4

Aka 60% of our matches so far it has either worked, or has partly worked to the extent we've not got beaten.

The margins are fine at the moment. The sample size is small. You can't definitively say it isn't working any more than I can say it definitely is.

What I can't get on board with is that all this equates to being as bad as, or only slightly better than, Duff.

At the very least, Williams has us organised as a defensive unit. That was completely non existent under Sgt Major Calamity Duff, except with him we also had the same issues up top (shot shy and goal shy). It's nonsense to conflate the two, people who think it's "the same" either have very short memories or they don't truly understand what it is they're watching.

Duff's record after 10 games last season 3-3-4. 15 goals for, 13 against, One game we didn't score. I remember you being right on his back and insisting he was garbage...and I agreed.

Williams 3-3-4. 8 goals for, 7 against, Five games we didn't score

Totally not comparable, obviously. Fair play, nothing to do with any bias at all.

Duff's next 9 were 2-3-4 then sacked.

Duff didn't cut it, Williams isn't cutting it. He needs to do much better in the next 10 games.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

Duff's record after 10 games last season 3-3-4. 15 goals for, 13 against, One game we didn't score. I remember you being right on his back and insisting he was garbage...and I agreed.

Williams 3-3-4. 8 goals for, 7 against, Five games we didn't score

Totally not comparable, obviously. Fair play, nothing to do with any bias at all.

Duff's next 9 were 2-3-4 then sacked.

Duff didn't cut it, Williams isn't cutting it. He needs to do much better in the next 10 games.

So all that really does is back up my point that we were a disorganised shambles under Duff, with nearly double the amount of goals conceded.

The difference between now and a year ago is night and day, the eyeball test does not lie. Now Williams isn't doing amazingly, I agree. Bang average in fact. But this time last year we were talking about a coach who was down there with Cullis and Bob Bradley.

Not the same. Simple as that.

 

[Smurph]

 

[Gors Buster]

I get the impression that if you question the manager and his tactics it means you want him gone with certain supporters.

They seem to be blinkered when it comes to their short comings and will blindly support them no matter what.

Elsewhere on the internet there seems to be one or two who revel in the misery of us losing and have done with the majority of our managers.

The thread is titled “Williams Out”

 

[Skippyjack]

The thread is titled “Williams Out”

F*cking right it is, everyone was on Duffs back, why aren't you all on Williams.. you've got to be consistent and not hypocritical.. lose tonight and he has a worse win % than Duff.. he's also blown 8 million down the tube.. I feel for Duff, talk about a poisoned chalice.. why is Williams put on this pedestal just like Russ was.. Russ also attempted to do the club over with compensation.. I'm just being fair here.. you don't treat two people differently in life, you treat them all the same.. I'll say it how it is..

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

F*cking right it is, everyone was on Duffs back, why aren't you all on Williams.. you've got to be consistent and not hypocritical.. lose tonight and he has a worse win % than Duff.. he's also blown 8 million down the tube.. I feel for Duff, talk about a poisoned chalice.. why is Williams put on this pedestal just like Russ was.. Russ also attempted to do the club over with compensation.. I'm just being fair here.. you don't treat two people differently in life, you treat them all the same.. I'll say it how it is..

Oh it's £8m now. It was £6m a few days ago. We'll be up to £10m before Millwall, no doubt.

 

[Skippyjack]

Oh it's £8m now. It was £6m a few days ago. We'll be up to £10m before Millwall, no doubt.

2 million in January, 6 million in the summer

 

[Gors Buster]

F*cking right it is, everyone was on Duffs back, why aren't you all on Williams.. you've got to be consistent and not hypocritical.. lose tonight and he has a worse win % than Duff.. he's also blown 8 million down the tube.. I feel for Duff, talk about a poisoned chalice.. why is Williams put on this pedestal just like Russ was.. Russ also attempted to do the club over with compensation.. I'm just being fair here.. you don't treat two people differently in life, you treat them all the same.. I'll say it how it is..

I’ve actually enjoyed a few games this season. In fact, 2 were edge-of-the-seat stuff.
We were absolute shit under Duff and would have gone down if he’d stayed.

 

[Cooperman]

F*cking right it is, everyone was on Duffs back, why aren't you all on Williams.. you've got to be consistent and not hypocritical.. lose tonight and he has a worse win % than Duff.. he's also blown 8 million down the tube.. I feel for Duff, talk about a poisoned chalice.. why is Williams put on this pedestal just like Russ was.. Russ also attempted to do the club over with compensation.. I'm just being fair here.. you don't treat two people differently in life, you treat them all the same.. I'll say it how it is..

Williams didn’t spend it though, the player selection almost certainly wasn’t his.

 

[monmouth]

I’ve actually enjoyed a few games this season. In fact, 2 were edge-of-the-seat stuff.
We were absolute shit under Duff and would have gone down if he’d stayed.

You didn’t enjoy absolutely creaming Millwall and Plymouth away and the edge of the seat win against Norwich when Humphries volleyed the winner and a four game winning sequence? But you’re enjoying this shit?

Talk about a blind spot.

 

[Smurph]

You didn’t enjoy absolutely creaming Millwall and Plymouth away and the edge of the seat win against Norwich when Humphries volleyed the winner and a four game winning sequence? But you’re enjoying this shit?

Talk about a blind spot.

Plymouth away was a cracking day

 

[Gors Buster]

Plymouth away was a cracking day

Nearly as good as Cardiff home