Is it really working with/for Duff?

[Longlostjack]

Ok - prepared for pelters. Second half they caused us all kinds of problems on left. Do you risk Key ? The manager knows fitness stats - we‘re not privy to them. We played some lovely stuff first half and looked much more threatening going forward. I‘ll stick.

 

[Baron Goblet]

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[PSumbler]

Ok - prepared for pelters. Second half they caused us all kinds of problems on left. Do you risk Key ? The manager knows fitness stats - we‘re not privy to them. We played some lovely stuff first half and looked much more threatening going forward. I‘ll stick.

We did play some good stuff first half

But we also looked like a leaky sieve for a larger part of it

We had three shots on target in the game, they had 10

They were the better team on the day bar a couple of short periods

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

Well I suppose it’s down to me to buck the trend a little here. After a very drab first ten or so minutes we started beating their press and getting the ball forward really quickly. Grimes showed how influential he can be and linked up superbly with Paterson whom I thought was on fire.
He showed a great turn of pace, desire and energy (even tackled well) throughout the 90 - that would never have happened under Martin so I think a massive amount of credit must go to the manager for this upturn in form from Paterson . Yates ran and ran and deserved his goal but crucially for us we couldn’t get the killer third goal before half time.
The message should have been “press like hell” for the opening ten minutes of the second half - maybe it was but ultimately that must have fallen on deaf ears as we allowed them straight back into the game with a very soft goal and I suppose then the writing was on the wall.
But Hull haven’t won half of their away games for no reason - they’ve spent money and Rosenior as a cracking young coach.
Duff keeps getting setbacks with suspensions (both completely undeserved) and injuries but he keeps battling on and I admire him for that.
Some of our one touch passing was a joy in the first half - we have improved dramatically on that score from last season. And we’ve lost a talismanic proven midfielder in N’tcham and 20 plus goals out of nothing from Piroe plus extra bodies which we just don’t have now.
I think it’s foolhardy even to think that Duff should go - he’s not started with a great deck of cards and some of those are unavailable (full back injuries, Ginelly out for the season and Kukrayovich all out).
The crowd was disappointing and nobody likes to see the Swans struggle but we all have to give Duff a little bit of credit at least to how he’s trying to implement a style we all love (quick one touch forward thinking football which we saw in the first half) with a very depleted squad which was never going to realistically be in and around the top six all season even without any of these injuries and absences.
He’s honest and that makes him much more likeable than that film flam merchant we had bullsitting us in after match interviews last year.

 

[PSumbler]

Ah yes Paterson. Looked superb in the first half spent large chunks of the second throwing himself on the floor with his arms in the air

Call me cynical but when’s his contract up ?

If he could do that first half stuff week in week out I’d be delighted , two and half seasons tells me he can’t

You are spot on though we should have pushed on at 2-0 but we didn’t and that is solely at the feet of the manager who showed his own defensive desire with his changes

 

[Nocountryforoldjack]

I like Duff and I think he's a good manager but he's working with a poor squad. The fact he's not Russell Martin is a massive plus.

 

[sainthelens]

Well I suppose it’s down to me to buck the trend a little here. After a very drab first ten or so minutes we started beating their press and getting the ball forward really quickly. Grimes showed how influential he can be and linked up superbly with Paterson whom I thought was on fire.
He showed a great turn of pace, desire and energy (even tackled well) throughout the 90 - that would never have happened under Martin so I think a massive amount of credit must go to the manager for this upturn in form from Paterson . Yates ran and ran and deserved his goal but crucially for us we couldn’t get the killer third goal before half time.
The message should have been “press like hell” for the opening ten minutes of the second half - maybe it was but ultimately that must have fallen on deaf ears as we allowed them straight back into the game with a very soft goal and I suppose then the writing was on the wall.
But Hull haven’t won half of their away games for no reason - they’ve spent money and Rosenior as a cracking young coach.
Duff keeps getting setbacks with suspensions (both completely undeserved) and injuries but he keeps battling on and I admire him for that.
Some of our one touch passing was a joy in the first half - we have improved dramatically on that score from last season. And we’ve lost a talismanic proven midfielder in N’tcham and 20 plus goals out of nothing from Piroe plus extra bodies which we just don’t have now.
I think it’s foolhardy even to think that Duff should go - he’s not started with a great deck of cards and some of those are unavailable (full back injuries, Ginelly out for the season and Kukrayovich all out).
The crowd was disappointing and nobody likes to see the Swans struggle but we all have to give Duff a little bit of credit at least to how he’s trying to implement a style we all love (quick one touch forward thinking football which we saw in the first half) with a very depleted squad which was never going to realistically be in and around the top six all season even without any of these injuries and absences.
He’s honest and that makes him much more likeable than that film flam merchant we had bullsitting us in after match interviews last year.

Duff keeps getting suspensions and injuries yet keeps battling on . WTF does that even mean? Of course he carries on, he's the fckn manager.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Ok - prepared for pelters. Second half they caused us all kinds of problems on left. Do you risk Key ? The manager knows fitness stats - we‘re not privy to them. We played some lovely stuff first half and looked much more threatening going forward. I‘ll stick.

Despite that, they still could have been winning going in at half time. They had more than enough chances in the first half.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Ah yes Paterson. Looked superb in the first half spent large chunks of the second throwing himself on the floor with his arms in the air

Call me cynical but when’s his contract up ?

If he could do that first half stuff week in week out I’d be delighted , two and half seasons tells me he can’t

You are spot on though we should have pushed on at 2-0 but we didn’t and that is solely at the feet of the manager who showed his own defensive desire with his changes

He’s been our best player this year for me. No idea about his contract situation, but history tells us you could well be correct on that.

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

Ah yes Paterson. Looked superb in the first half spent large chunks of the second throwing himself on the floor with his arms in the air

Call me cynical but when’s his contract up ?

If he could do that first half stuff week in week out I’d be delighted , two and half seasons tells me he can’t

You are spot on though we should have pushed on at 2-0 but we didn’t and that is solely at the feet of the manager who showed his own defensive desire with his changes

Agreed but I honestly believe he’s improved beyond measure , even from his pre paddy form under Martin. Tackles, runs his legs off and mentally seems to be in a much healthier place than before. Yes he’ll try to get some free kicks (and probably waste some good possession) . I was among his harshest critics when he refused to play but his commitment this season is unquestionable. Along with Humphries our best players yesterday(honourable mentions to Darling, Rushworth and Grimes too).

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

Duff keeps getting suspensions and injuries yet keeps battling on . WTF does that even mean? Of course he carries on, he's the fckn manager.

Well I suppose I mean that he’s always short of players for those reasons but doesn’t blather on about the lack of support from the board like Martin did. Not only that - some of the play we saw in the first half was excellent and in reality we should have scored more and won the game.

Just saying it as I see it (more positives than negatives under the circumstances). Of course you have every right to disagree , it’s a forum after all.

 

[sainthelens]

Well I suppose I mean that he’s always short of players for those reasons but doesn’t blather on about the lack of support from the board like Martin did. Not only that - some of the play we saw in the first half was excellent and in reality we should have scored more and won the game.

Just saying it as I see it (more positives than negatives under the circumstances). Of course you have every right to disagree , it’s a forum after all.

Duff brought in players, yes we need more support from the board, but so does every club. We had 3 shots on target compared to Hull's double figures. We were lucky to get a draw. Yes our approach play at times was good....that's been pretty much the case for few years tbh. We have won 2 home games this season, 1 being against Sheff Wed's...I think its the fans that are battling on more than anyone.

 

[Pegojack]

Ah yes Paterson. Looked superb in the first half spent large chunks of the second throwing himself on the floor with his arms in the air

Call me cynical but when’s his contract up ?

If he could do that first half stuff week in week out I’d be delighted , two and half seasons tells me he can’t

You are spot on though we should have pushed on at 2-0 but we didn’t and that is solely at the feet of the manager who showed his own defensive desire with his changes

I agree, he faded badly and should have come off for Patino after 60/65 minutes. Duff appears to be watching a different game, however.

 

[cmajack]

He’s been our best player this year for me. No idea about his contract situation, but history tells us you could well be correct on that.

He's had an OK season so far but yesterday was only his second goal of the season. That's simply not good enough for someone who plays as an attacking player.

 

[Neath_Jack]

He's had an OK season so far but yesterday was only his second goal of the season. That's simply not good enough for someone who plays as an attacking player.

This season has seen him play a different role, with more emphasis on tracking back, tackling and breaking up play. Whether that’s under instruction or just him changing is anyone’s guess.