Silverstein speaking to the fans

[Swanjaxs]

It has more porn than you can shake yer snake at

On it like a car bonnet kid

 

[BLAZE]

Fair enough. I haven’t looked on there for ages and only the Doctor Who subreddit in the main. Which was mental but Doctor Who does tend the attract the crazies so that maybe not Reddit's fault.

Heavy metal is the same :lol:

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Heavy metal is the same :lol:

Don’t make me look mun. :lol:

 

[Swanjaxs]

Don’t make me look mun. :lol:

 

[MajorR]

That is a fantastic post, and has opened my eyes a bit more. I’ve been giving them too much credit on ‘sustainability’.

Me too.

 

[Swansea93]

Fisher, Darling (2.3M according to Transfermarket) & Ogbeta have cost us over 3 million pound :shock:

 

[Darran]

 

[ARQS]

It's okay Lisa writing that about sustainability, but putting it into practice is another thing altogether. Show me a club of our size and set up, including geographical location, that is run sustainably. That is a genuine request, as I don't know if one even exists, or maybe there are loads that do.

The current owners are on the face of it, giving it their best shot to not ruin us.

But isn't the reality that we aren't really a club that, if run sustainably, should regularly be challenging at the top/upper mid table range of the division?

Obviously there'll be the odd period of time where we'll get lucky and have a couple of gem managers, a core of good players on relatively low wages/signed on frees, etc. but in the main, it will be a struggle.

If every club was run sustainably, only spent what they brought in through the turnstiles, club shop, player sales, etc... where would our natural place be? Yo-yo'ing between the Championship and League One? Probably with more time spent in the latter?

 

[Cinio Dydd Sul]

He's making himself look very silly with these posts digging a deeper hole for themselves. One hand he's saying mistakes were made, need to learn bla bla (we hear that after most windows from them), then he's saying the way they do business is the way everyone else does (evidently not) and they're convinced it's the best way to do things (the performances of the other sports team they own don't show that).

It's turning into the incoherent ramblings of someone who hasn't slept in weeks.

 

[jasper_T]

He's not wrong that the vast majority of clubs will have their owner-directors an active part of signing off on deals rather than simply handing a budget off to the manager/head of recruitment as the person he responded to asked, and he's not wrong that mistakes were obviously made in a window full of failed deals and failure to strengthen.

There is no surplus in the budget that they can point to and allow unsupervised investment in whatever Winter/Marsh/Martin fancy, like every Championship club we live beyond our means so new signings equal new money found from somewhere (either debts or future sales). It's easy to understand why the people putting up the cash to do business would want to check over the work given our poor record with signings. Potter wasted loads on players worse than what we had in the academy, Cooper's loans, Mark Allen overpaying for players no one wanted, the MK Dons flops (thank God they wouldn't sanction signing Sorinola permanently)...

 

[Cooperman]

He's not wrong that the vast majority of clubs will have their owner-directors an active part of signing off on deals rather than simply handing a budget off to the manager/head of recruitment as the person he responded to asked, and he's not wrong that mistakes were obviously made in a window full of failed deals and failure to strengthen.

There is no surplus in the budget that they can point to and allow unsupervised investment in whatever Winter/Marsh/Martin fancy, like every Championship club we live beyond our means so new signings equal new money found from somewhere (either debts or future sales). It's easy to understand why the people putting up the cash to do business would want to check over the work given our poor record with signings. Potter wasted loads on players worse than what we had in the academy, Cooper's loans, Mark Allen overpaying for players no one wanted, the MK Dons flops (thank God they wouldn't sanction signing Sorinola permanently)...

We should probably also be thankful for the fact that the Karlan Grant loan didn’t make it over the line. Him alone would not be enough to take us up, hence it would simply be a waste of valuable funds.

 

[Cinio Dydd Sul]

He's not wrong that the vast majority of clubs will have their owner-directors an active part of signing off on deals rather than simply handing a budget off to the manager/head of recruitment as the person he responded to asked, and he's not wrong that mistakes were obviously made in a window full of failed deals and failure to strengthen.

There is no surplus in the budget that they can point to and allow unsupervised investment in whatever Winter/Marsh/Martin fancy, like every Championship club we live beyond our means so new signings equal new money found from somewhere (either debts or future sales). It's easy to understand why the people putting up the cash to do business would want to check over the work given our poor record with signings. Potter wasted loads on players worse than what we had in the academy, Cooper's loans, Mark Allen overpaying for players no one wanted, the MK Dons flops (thank God they wouldn't sanction signing Sorinola permanently)...

Obviously he wasn't mistaken in saying there were mistakes, but we've heard this all before. There have been repeated mistakes in their recruitment policy and their conduct on deadline day alone, and they don't seem to have learnt from it.

I don't believe that club owners at the majority of other clubs have to be consulted on signing off every potential player though, even loans. It's just not practical.

As for there not being a surplus, are you implying there is no money to spend? Because they are saying / have said that there is and was? Or are they so naive and clueless in transfer deals that they actually thought the meagre amounts that they set aside for these deals that we were told were at advanced stages would be enough to sign the targets?

And if you're blaming the manager's choices of player, why have they bothered employing a recruitment specialist and team and then largely ignore them? What is their purpose?

 

[monmouth]

Signing off is ok...early and QUICKLY, agreeing limits before the deal is set up. Not signing off at the last minute is a pile of yankee doodle wanky.

 

[jasper_T]

And if you're blaming the manager's choices of player, why have they bothered employing a recruitment specialist and team and then largely ignore them? What is their purpose?

Maybe they would have had more to do if Obafemi and Piroe had maintained their perceived value of the summer, and Darling looked half the player many insisted he obviously would be. Nonetheless we seemed to be prepared to "speculate to accumulate" again to some degree, and at least some deals fell apart for reasons other than purely financial.

 

[Cinio Dydd Sul]

Maybe they would have had more to do if Obafemi and Piroe had maintained their perceived value of the summer, and Darling looked half the player many insisted he obviously would be. Nonetheless we seemed to be prepared to "speculate to accumulate" again to some degree, and at least some deals fell apart for reasons other than purely financial.

Maybe, but we know there's 4mill coming in for Obafemi in a few months. And if they're having to keep the club from under as they claimed should they be rejecting 8mill offers for players who are flawed like they did last summer? Their performance on transfers recently has been atrocious.

What is it that you think they are apologising for then? Seeing as you seem to think factors outside their control account for this shambles?