I thought I was dreaming the 20mph limit

[jack123]

The only thing I would question is that it was in the manifesto. 20 mph in residential areas is what was suggested and that is way too vague as opposed to the default speed limit. Most of us acknowledge that 20 mph is sensible in places and that vagueness is what those who actually read that in the manifesto may have thought the party were alluding to. If the party had stated that the default speed limit was going to be 20 mph then organisations would have been highlighting that and making the facebook public aware.

Yes, I think many were hoodwinked by this, I saw it at the time, but I admit I never realised it would have the current consequences, I think I thought at the time ah well, no big deal, there are plenty of 20 zones around already.

Another thing I'm slightly concerned about now, after the way the 20mph has been handled, is another part of their manifesto 'ban pavement parking, wherever possible', now that could lead to real carnage, if they go full on the way they have done with this 20mph default. I think what does wherever possible mean? Judging by what they have done with the 20mph default, I expect them to say, you can't park on the pavement, parking is available half a mile away.

 

[J_B]

Yes, I think many were hoodwinked by this, I saw it at the time, but I admit I never realised it would have the current consequences, I think I thought at the time ah well, no big deal, there are plenty of 20 zones around already.

Another thing I'm slightly concerned about now, after the way the 20mph has been handled, is another part of their manifesto 'ban pavement parking, wherever possible', now that could lead to real carnage, if they go full on the way they have done with this 20mph default. I think what does wherever possible mean? Judging by what they have done with the 20mph default, I expect them to say, you can't park on the pavement, parking is available half a mile away.

People who park on the pavement have no respect for disabled people on mobility scooters who have to leave the pavement (often difficult) and veer into the road.
Not to mention people with babies in prams and pushchairs.
It's selfish and thoughtless. Cars should stay on the road.

 

[sainthelens]

Courts will now be full of guys booked for allegedly kerb crawling.

 

[jack123]

People who park on the pavement have no respect for disabled people on mobility scooters who have to leave the pavement (often difficult) and veer into the road.
Not to mention people with babies in prams and pushchairs.
It's selfish and thoughtless. Cars should stay on the road.

Well the majority of car drivers I have seen parking on the pavement, do it purely because the road is not wide enough to accommodate cars parking either side, they could do I suppose, but the likelihood is only a cyclist would get through the gap.

 

[J_B]

Well the majority of car drivers I have seen parking on the pavement, do it purely because the road is not wide enough to accommodate cars parking either side, they could do I suppose, but the likelihood is only a cyclist would get through the gap.

Aye, so f**k the disabled and babies then.

 

[jack123]

Aye, so f**k the disabled and babies then.

You haven't really thought that through, the same disabled and parents with babies, could be the same ones, who are told they can longer park outside their house that they have for many years, and parking will be available a few streets away.

 

[Jack2jack]

I despise folk who perpetually park on footways, block peoples drives or generally park inconsideratly. Common law dictates that under The Highways Act you have no legal right to park on the highway, and that includes verges and footways.

 

[jack_lord]

Aye, so f**k the disabled and babies then.

It is a problem in our road. We have wide pavements but normal road. If cars park on road then delivery trucks, bin men, emergency vehicles can not get through. People on our road park on pavements almost through necessity for the above and disabled and prams still have enough to get by. I can see in other parts of the village where people would have to go out in to the road to get past though. I have suggested that the pavements are narrowed so we can avoid any of the above.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

I despise folk who perpetually park on footways, block peoples drives or generally park inconsideratly. Common law dictates that under The Highways Act you have no legal right to park on the highway, and that includes verges and footways.

My mrs is one of those people who think they have a divine right to park outside her own house, she goes postal when someone else parks there. And we have a two car drive as well so there’s no need of it. Lazy she is. Don’t tell her I said that though. Please.

 

[Jack2jack]

My mrs is one of those people who think they have a divine right to park outside her own house, she goes postal when someone else parks there. And we have a two car drive as well so there’s no need of it. Lazy she is. Don’t tell her I said that though. Please.

Mums the word.We too have a drive enough for ar least 3 cars, so we use it, imagine if you park on the road and somone sideswipes your motor, tampin .

 

[J_B]

You haven't really thought that through, the same disabled and parents with babies, could be the same ones, who are told they can longer park outside their house that they have for many years, and parking will be available a few streets away.

The Royal National Institute for the blind
Guide dogs for the blind.
Disabled motoring.org
Road safety GB
Each other.org (wheelchair users’)
Disability rights UK

Just some of the groups that are campaigning to stop parking on pavements because it impacts their members badly. There are many, many more.
Obviously they haven’t thought it through. Maybe you can put them right?

 

[Neath_Jack]

My mrs is one of those people who think they have a divine right to park outside her own house, she goes postal when someone else parks there. And we have a two car drive as well so there’s no need of it. Lazy she is. Don’t tell her I said that though. Please.

I'm also one of those who get absolutely fuming if another car parks outside my house :lol: I live in a dead end street with about ten houses here, and the best part is I don't park at the kerbside outside my house anyway, I park in the middle of the road at the dead end :lol:

 

[jack123]

The Royal National Institute for the blind
Guide dogs for the blind.
Disabled motoring.org
Road safety GB
Each other.org (wheelchair users’)
Disability rights UK

Just some of the groups that are campaigning to stop parking on pavements because it impacts their members badly. There are many, many more.
Obviously they haven’t thought it through. Maybe you can put them right?

That's not a problem, I would not hesitate to have a conversation with the groups you mention, of a possible compromise to the problem of pavement parking, even mothers with double buggys.com.

But at the moment, I am talking to you! So what's your solution then? On roads that are not wide enough to accommodate 2 cars parked either side, one side parks elsewhere, be it a few streets away, as long as they are not on the pavement, is that correct?

Saying that, no need to bother. I'm onto something a bit more interesting.

 

[jack_lord]

The Disability Discrimination Act recommends that a minimum of 1200mm width of footway should be kept free of obstructions. Now our pavement is 1000 mm wider than the minimum on both sides ( I'm a saddo and have measured it ). It is bin day and my car was on the pavement (other cars in the drive) and there is still 1400mm of clearance - if people can not traverse this gap then maybe they should not be out on the pavement.

 

[jack123]

The Disability Discrimination Act recommends that a minimum of 1200mm width of footway should be kept free of obstructions. Now our pavement is 1000 mm wider than the minimum on both sides ( I'm a saddo and have measured it ). It is bin day and my car was on the pavement (other cars in the drive) and there is still 1400mm of clearance - if people can not traverse this gap then maybe they should not be out on the pavement.

After googling a little bit about this, initial impressions that this pavement parking ban, has nothing to do with disability! I'm thinking maybe the anti car brigade are using the disabled organisations to promote their agenda. And from what I have read so far, they don't want any car on the pavement, even if there is plenty of room, they really do not give a hell, their solution for narrow roads, get a drive, or park in a garage.