Swanjaxs said:Anybody want this before I burn it?
Open to offers...
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Lovely top, don't burn it.
Swanjaxs said:Anybody want this before I burn it?
Open to offers...
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jack123 said:Lovely top, don't burn it.
Swanjaxs said:Best Swans away since 81 in my honest opinion mush
Itchysphincter said:There’s no evidence of climate change? Righto.
Itchysphincter said:Thanks for the update. You'll be telling me that bears sh!t in the woods next.
People need to get off this ridiculous idea that the UK is a clean country and that the blame lies with India or China.... yes, other countries who have more recently had their own industrial revolutions may be massive polluters but one of the biggest reasons that they are and we are not is because we send all of our manufacturing overseas and import everything back. Our lack of homegrown industry is one of the biggest drivers of overseas coal fired industry and pollution.
It's very simple and it's largely been driven by a couple of generations of conservativism, as has just about every other crisis currently crippling the nation. Not simple enough for the like of j123 but very simple all the same.
This is not an opnion.
FACT.
Swanjaxs said:Best Swans away since 81 in my honest opinion mush
gadget1974 said:Of course there is evidence of climate change, I guess the question is whether there is evidence of man made activity causing it which is a very different question.
For the record, I am pro reducing pollution as it's the right thing to do.
We know as a matter of scientific fact that that climate change and global warming/cooling happens, but we also know it's been happening since long before man existed on this planet. We have evidence of previous ice ages. We know that things like El Nino are cyclical.
We certainly aren't helping with the amount we pollute, but the UK I suspect pollutes far less than it did during the industrial revolution, and the challenge now should be to get china and india to look towards cleaner forms of energy production - only then will there be any kind of noticeable impact.
legoman said:I'm hoping some clever clogs on here can help me with something that I struggle with when considering climate change (I do accept it's happening by the way, I'm just not sure about the extent of man's contribution). These days we have highly advanced technology that allows us to measure temperatures just about anywhere on the planet at any time of the day or night, so we are able to track trends, I get that.
But go back just a few hundred years, maybe not even that, and clearly we cannot say that recording of temperature measurement was anywhere near as accurate.
I accept we can look at ice core samples and tree rings and all that good stuff but you can't tell me we can determine how the temperature of the planet varied between the years say10,000 BC and 9,500BC. So what I'm saying is how do we distinguish between natural planetary temperature changes and those attributable to human activity? And please don't label me a climate change denier, I'm certainly not.