Just Stop Oil

[jack123]

Is climate change true?

For me, I would have to say a categorical NO.

 

[Itchysphincter]

For me, I would have to say a categorical NO.

Why? Is it because someone told you wales used to be tropical in prehistoric times?

 

[Jack2jack]

This isn't about governments though, unless we're also saying that government officials all over the world are plotting with world renowned scientists to have all our pants down over it.

Maybe there is a middle ground, that's what I'm saying and we should all be pulling together, not this petty one up man ship.

 

[jack123]

Why? Is it because someone told you wales used to be tropical in prehistoric times?

It's just the way I feel, about how the facts are presented regarding climate change.. Even with my viewpoint, and even if swallowed the story about climate change, nothing I would do, would have any detrimental affect on the planet, I would imagine my carbon footprint, is most probably one of the lowest on here.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

I thought even the cranks don’t deny actual climate change just dispute humanity’s responsibility for it? I may be wrong in that mind. Climate change denier weirdos command about as much of my attention as flat earthers.

 

[Itchysphincter]

It's just the way I feel, about how the facts are presented regarding climate change.. Even with my viewpoint, and even if swallowed the story about climate change, nothing I would do, would have any detrimental affect on the planet, I would imagine my carbon footprint, is most probably one of the lowest on here.

It’s easy to not believe in climate change, that way you don’t have to consider the cause or take any responsibility.

 

[jack123]

It’s easy to not believe in climate change, that way you don’t have to consider the cause or take any responsibility.

But surely, me not actually believing it, does not make one jot of difference? To the bigger picture? Like If I said yes climate change exists, or no it doesn't, how would my views affect the planet?

 

[Itchysphincter]

But surely, me not actually believing it, does not make one jot of difference? To the bigger picture? Like If I said yes climate change exists, or no it doesn't, how would my views affect the planet?

Your views influence your actions.

Derp.

 

[jack123]

Your views influence your actions.

Derp.

Whatever! And I note, that's a hat trick of derogatory comments aimed against me, bewt, headbanger, and now derp. You are wasting your time, I will not rise to it, So Stop It.

Although one thing your comments do tell me is, you are slightly unsure yourself about all this, otherwise why would you try to bring this down to a schoolyard conversation, with petty name calling?

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Turns out it wasn’t JSO after all.

 

[JackSomething]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

'Are unwilling to state they're definitely right' :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's a really odd way to look at things, they are not unwilling, they just can't say, because it's all speculation by them It literally tells you that in the article, yet GMB present it as the truth.

It's ludicrous.

It's not speculation, it's a theory informed by their expertise and extensive studies.

Saying they are 100% sure they're right would rightly make more people dubious, like someone claiming Covid was a hoax.

 

[jack123]

Turns out it wasn’t JSO after all.

They did hint at initial responsibility for doing it, yet I can see they have now distanced themselves from it, although it's plain to see, it's either them, or just a copycat disciple of JSO doing it..

Anyway my question is, show me any proof that a few days ago, was the warmest on this planet for 125,000 years.

And that's what they are going with, you call out blatant lies, and you get called far right.. What the actual ferk?

I should not say anything anymore, I should jt be a nodding dog, and agree with everything, even though it's absolutely bonkers, and when you question it, you get ridiculed by normal people, who are not scientists, it's just basically their viewpoint differs to yours.

Isn't it strange, how nobody has put any legitimate data, to back up climate change? Not hypothesis. Real data, because they can't..

If I am a right winger for questioning absurdity, well so be it.

 

[JackSomething]

With all due respect JS, it works both ways. If folk are happy to go with narrative, that's fine, however, history shows that governments lie, just a bit, mind.
Its probably more difficult to make a judgement call these days as there are so many 'experts'.
It's my belief that whatever we do from here on in, we will end up making a right royal mess of it.

I agree a dose of scepticism to what governments tell you is healthy, especially given the average track record of those in power. That's not the case with climate change or Covid deniers however.

 

[JackSomething]

They did hint at initial responsibility for doing it, yet I can see they have now distanced themselves from it, although it's plain to see, it's either them, or just a copycat disciple of JSO doing it..

Anyway my question is, show me any proof that a few days ago, was the warmest on this planet for 125,000 years.

And that's what they are going with, you call out blatant lies, and you get called far right.. What the actual ferk?

I should not say anything anymore, I should jt be a nodding dog, and agree with everything, even though it's absolutely bonkers, and when you question it, you get ridiculed by normal people, who are not scientists, it's just basically their viewpoint differs to yours.

Isn't it strange, how nobody has put any legitimate data, to back up climate change? Not hypothesis. Real data, because they can't..

If I am a right winger for questioning absurdity, well so be it.

Nobody has called you far right.

There's plenty of legitimate data to back up climate change if you care to look. No point if you've already made up your mind though.

 

[jack123]

I agree a dose of scepticism to what governments tell you is healthy, especially given the average track record of those in power. That's not the case with climate change or Covid deniers however.

Tidy, Ok show us some real data, not hypothesis, about climate change. Please do.